📺 TV Mid-Year Grades: Hits, Misses, and the Shows That Stuck With Us 📺+ Cobra Kai Season 6 Part 1 Review!

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Sarah : Greetings, nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah

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Belmont, and with me, as always, is our mister producer, will polk. How

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are you doing tonight, will?

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Will: Doing very well, Sarah. Good to be back with you.

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Sarah : Yeah, it's been, two weeks.

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Will: Yeah, yeah, I guess. Yeah. It's been two

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weeks since our last recording, but I know it seems like,

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August seems to have been longer than

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that.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got Covid for the first

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time.

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Will: Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I know, I know.

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I was feeling for you, but I'm glad you're watch. Doing better.

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Sarah : Yeah. And it's. It, honestly, the perfect

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timing. I mean, if I was going to get

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it, because I'm a hermit, so I lasted four

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years without getting it, but because I'm a

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hermit. So, though. So one of the very few

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times that I actually leave

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Alaska to go to the lower 48 y'all give

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me. I get it. But I also.

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I'm there for a good five, four

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days, and it really hit me on the last day

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when I was flying home. So I'm going to apologize to all

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of the people in the airports that I went

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to where I was walking around with COVID with

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masks off, because I didn't realize I had it at the

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time. Did not

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realize. Just. It felt like a really bad cold,

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so. And and in my defense, my mom did the same

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thing, so. So, honestly, if

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you got it because you were around us, blame

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her. Cause I got it from her. So whatever.

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Will: It's always. It's always mom's fault.

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Sarah : It's always mom's fault. It is. It is, it is.

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But. And so then it just

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extended my leave from work because

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I can't. I couldn't go in when I

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tested positive for Covid.

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So, like, I. Like, if it. It would have been

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very bad had I got in it

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going down.

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Will: Oh, gosh.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. So I'm.

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I'm grateful for the timing. If it

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had to happen, it was, honestly arguably

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one of the better times to have occurred, so.

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Will: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. Cause you had.

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You had big plans on your own, your trip,

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and and I saw the

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concerts you went to Usta, exciting times. It would have sucked if

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you had gotten sick on en route, so I'm glad

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you were able to do that.

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Sarah : And there's a speculation we got

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it from the concert, so you never know.

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Will: Yeah, that's

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probably. Probably where it's definitely.

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Yeah. it's still hanging around there, so sort of like, it's kind of like the flu

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now, this is still. It's there.

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Sarah : But, you know, people, I will say

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I've had the flu.

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now. Now, this hit me bad, like, in

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my voice and congestion. However.

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I don't know why, but I want to say I felt worse

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when I had the flu because the freaking

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fever. M. That fever was

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a bitch. Never

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felt that way. And I don't. I didn't really

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get too much of a fever. I maybe got as high as

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one oh, 101. But I swear,

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I was, like, at, 106 with. When I had the flu. I was,

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like, getting out ice packs, like, oh, my

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God.

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Will: Yeah. The one time I

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contracted Covid, I had that one, I guess, that day and

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a half where I think it was, where it just

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laid me out. But then after that, I was.

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Yeah, But, yeah, that's probably. Probably about the same. It was.

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It was like the. Yeah, the flu

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was worse because I think it was longer. But the one

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day that I did when I did have

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Covid there, it was no joke.

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And. But, But, yeah, Yeah, it

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definitely ticked up this summer. I know. It's kind of. Well,

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I had a couple. Several people I know in addition to you,

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that, That, Got it. But I'm glad you're doing better.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And I did watch some stuff

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while I was stuck here

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chilling. And just coughing and blowing

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my nose constantly, so.

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But I didn't watch anything,

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like. Okay. The stuff I ended up watching. Have

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you heard about the show, your honor?

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Will: Yeah. Yeah. I've been meaning to watch it.

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Sarah : Don't watch it. Okay. Do not do

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this. I have no idea why everyone is,

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like, not everyone, but every so

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often through social media, there's

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these shows that, suddenly just start to

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kind of, like, there's. There's

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a group of people who kind of are like, oh, you have to watch it.

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It's like a, a very

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well kept secret. And I think it was

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originally on Showtime and then got moved to

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Netflix, and now season two is on Netflix. And so I

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kept hearing it, and so I ended up

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watching it within the

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first episode. I was bored, because

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within the first episode. I mean, the whole premise

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is a judge's son,

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is involved in a hit and run. Okay.

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Will: Yep.

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Sarah : And. But the

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actions of the son and the

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judge make

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arguably no sense to me. Within the first

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episode, the. The

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logic, for lack

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thereof, I give the son a

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break. But the moment the judge

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or Bryan Cranston's character comes in

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and starts to assess the situation. I'm

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like, oh, my God. Really?

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Really? And just, They

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make decisions to. That

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obviously no one in their right mind would

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make. I mean, okay, I'm just gonna spoil it

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because this show made me so freaking mad.

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The COVID up. So Bryan Cranston's

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character becomes aware that his son

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evolved in hit and run, kills this other kid

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who. Who just so happens to be the son of a mob boss in the

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city. So he

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knows that his son will get

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killed if he admits

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to being, like, the perpetrator. Okay, that

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made sense to me. What does not make sense to me

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is the vehicle itself. He

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ends up getting a friend of his

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to, find somebody to take it to a chop

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shop. And then within a

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matter what feels like a, half of a day,

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he tells his detective that

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somebody stole my car, which immediately

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puts the cops on alert. Like,

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I'm like, what? What?

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And because I was bored, it just

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gets worse.

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Will: Yeah.

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Sarah : And don't. Do not tell me season

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two is better, because the decision.

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I really skimmed season two because

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I just couldn't. I just could not take it

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anymore. I was like, what the fuck is this? This

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is some of the most. Like, I

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understand backing

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your characters into the corner and then seeing how they get

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out, but I just can't understand

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that logic. Like, you. You

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get somebody to take the car away to dispose

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of it, and you don't logically

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come up with a good timetable of when to notify

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the cops. Like, that car got stolen, or, like,

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it's just. It was so bad.

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Will: Yeah, yeah, I've heard people talk about it and

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I had attempted to start it,

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but. Yeah, this. I was like, yeah,

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because I heard about the premise and stuff and all,

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but, Yeah, me, I may. I may

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after hearing you describe it, but

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more on my past.

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Sarah : Yeah, it definitely was one

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where it made me mad. I finally watched

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maid, came out a few years back.

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Will: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Sarah : It didn't make me cry.

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Sarah : I understand why a lot of, Especially women like

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that show. And it's good. It's good. I

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thought it was going to be a little bit better than it

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turned out to be, but I. That was made. I

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watched Emily in Paris, season four,

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first half, because Netflix loves to do that

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shit these days.

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Will: They do.

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Sarah : this weekend, I started.

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I started, ah, two k dramas,

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love next door, which is very

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cute. And, also the

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frog, which. The

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frog, I don't know. I'm

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only two and a quarter episodes

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in, and they currently have eight episodes

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out. I think it's probably going to be twelve to 16

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episodes long. Very interesting to

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see what happens here. Very, very.

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I don't know yet. I haven't made up my mind if

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it's too boring, too slow, or if

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it's, If it's interesting. It has me intrigued,

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though. It's a, it's, it's.

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I I don't know how to explain it. I want to

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say murder mystery, but not murder mystery. M because

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we know who killed, say it sounds

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like it's.

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Like it's a mystery, but it's not a mystery. But at the

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same time there's two.

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They're technically telling, from what I can gather,

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two stories simultaneously.

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Will: Okay.

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Sarah : and it's the same place,

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different events, but they're running

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parallel. And I'm trying to figure out why

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I made one connection that's pretty obvious

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because basically we're

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in a way away.

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Not really. She's not the main character, but

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objectively she's the link.

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Because you have someone at the start of her career

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on a murder case, someone at the

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end, and then we meet her in the future.

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Okay, but, but

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it's, it's a very. It's a bit complicated, but it's

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called frog. I'm curious about it, so I'll

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update you guys as we make our way through

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that. Unless, I give up on it because,

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man, we're going to get into this. And you already mentioned the

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acolyte which rip, season two

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or any seasons to come. Because

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what, you watched it? Okay, I

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get to finish it. But, Did

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you, could you understand

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why it cost them, what was it,

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$170 million to make that show?

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Will: It must have been all I carry him also salary.

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Sarah : To be honest, I had that same thought. I

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was just like, there's no way.

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Will: Because we. Because, yeah, because we watched the first

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episodes together and then of course, you know, then we

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had our June half. Well, it

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started at June as well, but the, you know, it was sort of the,

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Luke, the appetizer before the main event

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and, the main course. And,

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did watch all

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eight episodes. I mean, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, see how much of a pressure it made on me.

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and it was. So

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I was, I was not surprised,

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especially after we didn't hear

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anything about it at d 23

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that it was going to about a renewal.

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So once, once we got through

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d 23 a couple weeks ago, I guess it's like, I guess.

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I guess was the weekend after we finished our last recording,

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and it didn't get renewed. I was like, oh, okay. You know,

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probably still try to decide, or it's sort of

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like ahsoka, you know, we'll just get maybe a

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soft renewal, because

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of all the. All the

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discourse that was going on about that show.

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themes throughout it that I thought

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that. And the fights were probably some of the

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best fights I've Scene in Star Wars. I will. I

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cannot. And the choreography there, the fight

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choreography, the lightsaber choreography, definitely some of the

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best that I've Scene in Star Wars.

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I cannot. I cannot knock,

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that. But the, you know, but I

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think, was it the second or third episode? I think we made it to, what,

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three episodes together, and it was the whole witches

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singing and stuff. And at that point, you were just like,

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you build. And, you know, because we, like I said, we

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went to the main, main course, but

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I think I messaged you. It was probably

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good. It was good that we did not cover it together because we

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would have. It would just been a frustrating watch for both of

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us. I mean, I did. I did do, some

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reviews with, our friends over at a plus.

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you know, every week it was, like, picking out.

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me. sort of like with the flash

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down the line, whenever we were, like, on the tail ends of our views

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of that show where it's, like, great ideas, but

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execution sucks.

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Sarah : Right.

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Will: which. Yeah. And I just. I can't see where the money went.

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I mean, I really can't.

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Sarah : Yeah. That freaking. That price tag.

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My God.

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Will: Yeah. And, yeah, and, and,

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and quite frankly, I

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mean, after those first episodes,

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you know, I see why just being

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objective, I mean, it just wasn't

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enough there to keep people interested. And I know

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there's all the other discourse about the trolls and

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the, you know, the neck

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beards and whatnot and, and all.

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But, I mean, I think that is giving them way

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too much credit, quite frankly. I think

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the truth of the matter is that,

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with a lot of these shows, because, I mean, we both were,

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you know, even, like, with Ahsoka stuff and

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Obi wan and some other shows, I mean, we both have been very critical

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of some of the content coming out of Star wars recently, other

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than maybe Andor. Cause even mandalorian

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season three, we weren't like, you know, we. It was.

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It was a slog to get through.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I don't even remember really what

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happened in season three.

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Will: Yeah, so, yeah, so,

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yeah, so, I mean, that's as far as

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a hot news topic

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of late. That's, that's, where my thoughts

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will only acolyte there.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah.

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and then we had a pre show discussion

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about this topic of like, your

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mid year grade for tv.

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Will: Yeah.

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Sarah : which at first he had talked me down because he's like, you

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don't have to grade every single show. And I'm like, good,

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good. Thank God.

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so did you, did you have a

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show in particular or. I mean, what

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is overall your grade for tv?

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Will: So this year, as I was sitting

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here listing all the things that we've covered so far,

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yeah, no surprise. My

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favorite one out of the gate,

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was shogun. you know, I

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think, and, interestingly enough, as I

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was sort of thinking through all the things we've

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covered and things that really left an impression with me,

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I have to say that fallout

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is going up

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on the meter for

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me. I mean, I thought the boys was good. I think it,

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you know, it started strong. It ended strong.

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That middle was, you know, I think the

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subtlety and it was

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just way too on the nose. And especially as we get deeper in

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election year and stuff, it just like, man, that show

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just is like, you know, what made that show great those earlier

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seasons was just like how it did the satire

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and the subtlety that I think was,

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it was, it was less of a blunt instrument than it was this

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year. I think that, and I think that took away from the show,

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quite frankly.

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Sarah : Yeah. I always enjoy

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watching the boys during,

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like, while I'm in it. And

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arguably, I only ever reference it

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later on when I'm talking about

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acting or satire.

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So the seasons, I never

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really, I would never really rank

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high on anything just because I never, I

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don't, I don't spend my time thinking about the boys because

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honestly, I don't want those images in my

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mind.

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Will: Yeah, there's that too.

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Sarah : Like, no, no, no. Like in the

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moment, overall arcing story

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and character growth and just Antony Starr

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having so much fun on screen in that

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role. as, as

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horrible as a person, as

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Homelander is, it's just, it's very, it's, it's very

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interesting. but, yeah, I would,

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I don't, I often,

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whenever I think about tv shows,

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it's, it goes back to what you said at the start.

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It's like, what had an impact on me and I started thinking

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about it. So I'm gonna just

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jump ahead to my overall grade because,

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as soon as you pose the question, and I'm gonna be

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completely honest, I was thinking about

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maybe grading on a curb, but then I'm like,

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no, because I think listeners have even

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heard me say this prior to

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this conversation tonight. It's a c.

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nothing is standing out to me. I'm

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forgetting about everything. I don't think about these

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shows after I watch them. House of

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dragon should have been. Hit me harder. It did

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not hit me at all.

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I kind of forgot it happened.

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and, man, Greg Miller,

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from kind of funny, posted

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something on kind of funny's channel,

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and, their YouTube channel.

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And it was, ah,

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why season three of the bear sucks.

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I'm like, thank you. And he said.

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He said, I mean, before you write it off, will. He said,

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tina episode was the best episode.

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Will: Okay. Yeah, well, hey, I'm all, hey, well, I feel. I

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feel, vindicated there that, a big channel, like,

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you know, had the same villain that I had.

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Sarah : Yeah. Right. And I listened to most of

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it, and he talked about all the points that we talked about.

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Like, the most frustrating thing

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about that season is nothing

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happens.

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Will: Yeah.

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Sarah : It feels like you're just standing still

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and by the end of season, you feel like you're still in the.

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The freezer, which. I don't

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know, like, I kind of feel like House of Dragon did something

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similar because it feels like a continuation

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of a cliffhanger from season one. But I get

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it. I get it. But it's just frustrating for me.

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I forgot fallout happened.

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yeah. It's just. And I just. I

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know that a lot of these

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things have been good, like shogun,

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killer, paradox. I forgot about that show.

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What else? House of dragon, the boys,

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the bear. But I also,

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ah, nothing's really sticking out to

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me where I feel like last

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year, towards the end of

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the year, I kept referencing

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shows that I'd Scene earlier in the year. I kept

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going back to it, making comparisons. Things

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really hit me a lot more last,

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year than they are this year.

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Will: Yeah. And, we talked about

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this with the strike

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back last year. We were wondering

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how the strike was going to impact these shows.

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And we clearly saw, like, with House of the dragon, for

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example, wherever the strike

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definitely, like, not only did it impact the show as far as,

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like, I think the writing. I mean, it was to me, I

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mean, I still, For me, house of the dragon sticks out to

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me and I know it's still maybe a little bit recency bias.

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But, but at the same time, I

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think, you know, they were in the middle of

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production when, when the strike happened

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and between that and then also just

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HBO. Well, well, I guess Warner brothers

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discovery, cutting their butt, you know, tighten up the rings as

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far as the budget and stuff, they cut their episode count from ten to

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eight. So it just, you know, so we saw some, some of

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the impacts there. one, one that

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does stand, another one that does stand out for me was, mister and

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misses Smith. I know that was one that I

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really did, really, really,

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really did enjoy. killer

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paradox is one that you shared with me that,

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that, that was when

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I was hit. That was unexpected for me, that I liked

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it as much as I. That I did. because I know that was

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something that we talked about earlier in the year.

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but, yeah, but speaking of shows, I

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think I know before we had

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a little chat after things, to possibly

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watch over our break. And, so speaking of

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House of the dragon. So, Sarah, I did it. I

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started Game of Thrones.

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Sarah : You started it.

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Will: Yes. I finally did. I finally did. That

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was what I did.

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Sarah : Episodes are in.

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Will: I've gotten four episodes in the first season. I'm just taking

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my time. I'm not going to bend. You know, I got, I figured, I got.

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Sarah : I got plenty of time to know, like

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the big point.

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Will: I know the big points. But now. But, yeah, but,

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But, yeah, but it's just now, even

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though I know those movies, certain things

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were going to happen, it's still, just, still

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watching it, actually seeing

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it, I was. I see, I was like, God,

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I was like, damn, I missed, you know, I have like that.

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Yeah. I just like, man, I wish it's like I could like,

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have a tv time, machine and just be able to experience that,

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like when everybody else did for the first time. Because

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I see why, especially that first. It was early episodes

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of the first season. I see why the show,

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it is what it is and why it just became, you know,

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such, so popular and it's like ice and stuff. Because it

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definitely.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. I missed the first

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two seasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I. And then I played it played catch up,

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from there because I kept hearing things. And honestly, I

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don't really remember being that too

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keen on it initially. It grew on

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me. I just remember

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specifically, like, Peter Dinklage.

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Will: Yeah, that's. Yes, that's. That's really what stands

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out to me. Yeah. Because, I mean, those first

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couple episodes are you, know, just trying to get used to Ned

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Stark and the whole, you know, and everything is like.

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It is a little bit of a slow burn. I, You know, but.

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Sarah : Oh, yeah, they got a. They got a lot

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to do in that first, because you're

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talking. You're talking a world and we're not talking

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one. One,

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incestuous family, we're talking like

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five or six. And that just continues to

507
00:23:27.230 --> 00:23:29.914
grow and all this stuff. But, yeah,

508
00:23:31.014 --> 00:23:33.642
you definitely are going to get your, I'll say

509
00:23:33.778 --> 00:23:35.734
the ice side of things.

510
00:23:36.484 --> 00:23:39.412
from the game of Thrones. Well, with House of Dragon, you're

511
00:23:39.428 --> 00:23:40.988
getting the firesides, so.

512
00:23:41.036 --> 00:23:43.860
Will: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I just. I just wanted to share

513
00:23:43.892 --> 00:23:46.532
that with you. I was waiting to, like,

514
00:23:46.668 --> 00:23:49.462
share that with you, here tonight. I didn't. That's why I didn't message you

515
00:23:49.518 --> 00:23:52.246
or text you over to break. I was like, I would. I want to

516
00:23:52.350 --> 00:23:54.834
talk with you. Actually talk with you about this one.

517
00:23:56.294 --> 00:23:58.902
Sarah : Well, yeah, I'm. I've been

518
00:23:59.038 --> 00:24:01.926
kind of. Every now and then, tick tock recommend, like,

519
00:24:02.030 --> 00:24:04.982
on my four youth stuff, they. They pull up

520
00:24:04.998 --> 00:24:07.726
a clip from House of Dre or from Game of

521
00:24:07.750 --> 00:24:10.740
Thrones. And I. I've actually been rewatching

522
00:24:10.852 --> 00:24:13.692
clips of succession recently as a

523
00:24:13.708 --> 00:24:16.616
masterpiece. but

524
00:24:16.760 --> 00:24:19.386
anyways, Yeah,

525
00:24:19.530 --> 00:24:21.870
so I guess, your overall

526
00:24:22.062 --> 00:24:24.554
grade is an a b.

527
00:24:24.934 --> 00:24:27.104
Will: Well, for the year,

528
00:24:27.644 --> 00:24:30.104
I would say it's a.

529
00:24:31.644 --> 00:24:34.462
So far, I would say it's probably

530
00:24:34.518 --> 00:24:35.514
a b.

531
00:24:37.174 --> 00:24:40.046
Because. Yeah, because, I mean, there are some distinct groups. I mean,

532
00:24:40.070 --> 00:24:42.550
Avatar, the last airbender. Oh,

533
00:24:42.582 --> 00:24:45.350
boy. Echo.

534
00:24:45.462 --> 00:24:47.954
I mean, you know, it had potential.

535
00:24:48.554 --> 00:24:51.220
reacher was another one that was. It was

536
00:24:51.252 --> 00:24:53.820
okay now, you know, it was one of those. It was like

537
00:24:53.852 --> 00:24:56.684
popcorn movie for tv show for me. You know, it's just

538
00:24:56.724 --> 00:24:58.982
like solid,

539
00:24:59.118 --> 00:25:02.070
but, you know, watch it and

540
00:25:02.102 --> 00:25:03.954
move on. Like. Like you said that. Like,

541
00:25:04.734 --> 00:25:07.662
nothing moves the needle. Like you said. I mean, really, the

542
00:25:07.678 --> 00:25:10.526
only thing that the two shows that moved a needle for me this year, shogunate,

543
00:25:10.550 --> 00:25:12.926
House of the dragon, everything else is sort of like, okay, it's

544
00:25:12.950 --> 00:25:13.566
there.

545
00:25:13.750 --> 00:25:15.444
Sarah : Mm Right? Yeah.

546
00:25:15.628 --> 00:25:18.404
Will: Even X Men 97. As much as well done as it

547
00:25:18.428 --> 00:25:21.148
was, it still doesn't. It's.

548
00:25:21.180 --> 00:25:23.652
It's like in that next level. It's in that next year with.

549
00:25:23.772 --> 00:25:26.042
With, Maybe,

550
00:25:26.972 --> 00:25:28.432
with Mister and misses Smith.

551
00:25:28.972 --> 00:25:30.992
Sarah : Right, right.

552
00:25:32.692 --> 00:25:35.428
And we got. We got Penguin and Agatha all

553
00:25:35.460 --> 00:25:36.932
along. Coming up next.

554
00:25:37.092 --> 00:25:39.192
Will: Yep. Next month. Yeah.

555
00:25:40.012 --> 00:25:43.004
Sarah : It's going to be a few weeks of scraping to

556
00:25:43.028 --> 00:25:44.272
try to figure out what to.

557
00:25:45.132 --> 00:25:47.832
Will: I recommend a supercell. I know. Saw a few people.

558
00:25:48.172 --> 00:25:51.050
It's like a british Sci-Fi show that's out there,

559
00:25:51.146 --> 00:25:54.146
original content. So maybe it could be our. It can be. It

560
00:25:54.154 --> 00:25:55.942
could be our, like, like one piece this year where we.

561
00:25:55.982 --> 00:25:58.598
Sarah : Like, what is it

562
00:25:58.630 --> 00:26:01.082
on Netflix. Netflix.

563
00:26:01.502 --> 00:26:03.552
And it's only one season, actually.

564
00:26:03.836 --> 00:26:05.404
Will: just got renewed for a second season.

565
00:26:05.588 --> 00:26:08.460
Sarah : Oh, yeah. Well, it got renewed, but only one season

566
00:26:08.516 --> 00:26:08.756
is.

567
00:26:08.804 --> 00:26:11.436
Will: Yeah, so far. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, six episodes.

568
00:26:11.524 --> 00:26:14.412
Sarah : So, yeah, you can. We can try that. That's

569
00:26:14.452 --> 00:26:17.272
fine. All right.

570
00:26:18.092 --> 00:26:20.908
so. So we're going to talk about Cobra Kai for, like,

571
00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:23.456
five minutes. season

572
00:26:23.544 --> 00:26:26.160
six, they decided

573
00:26:26.336 --> 00:26:28.904
to. So it was five

574
00:26:28.968 --> 00:26:31.584
episodes now and it's five episodes in

575
00:26:31.608 --> 00:26:32.528
November.

576
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.632
Will: Yep. And then another five some point

577
00:26:35.672 --> 00:26:37.136
next year to close this out.

578
00:26:37.184 --> 00:26:38.856
Sarah : Oh, there's another five?

579
00:26:38.984 --> 00:26:41.040
Will: Yeah, 15 total for the final season.

580
00:26:41.096 --> 00:26:44.092
Sarah : Yeah, 15 total. Okay.

581
00:26:44.552 --> 00:26:47.290
What? Yeah, I was

582
00:26:47.346 --> 00:26:50.290
so confused because these first

583
00:26:50.346 --> 00:26:53.338
five episodes are literally

584
00:26:53.490 --> 00:26:56.354
just about trying to figure out

585
00:26:56.498 --> 00:26:59.258
who is going to represent Miyagi

586
00:26:59.290 --> 00:27:02.138
do in the Sagatai kai

587
00:27:02.330 --> 00:27:05.138
tournament, which they get to at the

588
00:27:05.170 --> 00:27:08.010
very end. And so I'm like, wait a second.

589
00:27:08.066 --> 00:27:10.930
So are you telling me that the next

590
00:27:11.026 --> 00:27:14.026
five episodes are just going to be the tournament? Like, they're going

591
00:27:14.034 --> 00:27:16.932
to stretch the tournament tournament out by

592
00:27:16.972 --> 00:27:19.564
five episodes, but now wills telling me, no,

593
00:27:19.588 --> 00:27:21.392
no, there's more.

594
00:27:22.692 --> 00:27:25.572
Will: Well, I think the. But, well, it is Netflix, so their. But, you

595
00:27:25.572 --> 00:27:28.124
know, budget issues are not a problem

596
00:27:28.188 --> 00:27:31.076
there. Streaming platform. So they.

597
00:27:31.124 --> 00:27:33.312
They could straight. They can stretch it out for ten.

598
00:27:34.172 --> 00:27:37.076
Sarah : You would have me fooled because, man, I don't

599
00:27:37.124 --> 00:27:39.948
know. I don't. They probably make this

600
00:27:39.980 --> 00:27:42.782
show for $5 for all I know. Like. Yeah,

601
00:27:42.862 --> 00:27:45.390
but it is not, you

602
00:27:45.406 --> 00:27:46.950
know, they're going to.

603
00:27:47.006 --> 00:27:49.630
Will: Yeah, but I think I did read where they actually did film

604
00:27:49.806 --> 00:27:51.962
part of the season in Barcelona, so.

605
00:27:52.262 --> 00:27:54.830
Sarah : Well, well, that's. That's great. It still

606
00:27:54.926 --> 00:27:57.162
looks like an after school special.

607
00:27:59.152 --> 00:28:01.568
so, so, yeah, yeah,

608
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.704
it. Cobra Kai is never going to be a Cobra kai. Season

609
00:28:04.768 --> 00:28:07.224
one. Like, season one, season

610
00:28:07.288 --> 00:28:10.078
two, season three, it just

611
00:28:10.150 --> 00:28:12.792
goes downhill. M.

612
00:28:13.502 --> 00:28:16.046
Yeah, I just. It.

613
00:28:16.214 --> 00:28:17.102
The. The,

614
00:28:20.662 --> 00:28:23.522
Chris, like, is it gonna

615
00:28:23.562 --> 00:28:26.514
take them 15 episodes to get him back in jail? Is

616
00:28:26.538 --> 00:28:28.662
that what you're trying to tell me? What the fuck?

617
00:28:29.002 --> 00:28:31.954
Will: Yeah, the kreese stuff. I mean, I will.

618
00:28:32.018 --> 00:28:34.810
The show just, for me, just grinds to a halt anytime

619
00:28:34.946 --> 00:28:37.818
they go back to him. M. And that

620
00:28:37.834 --> 00:28:40.674
was the second episode where he was in Korea, which

621
00:28:40.722 --> 00:28:43.458
I'm like, okay, now, he escaped from jail. I

622
00:28:43.474 --> 00:28:46.426
mean, you got to suspend this belief multiple times

623
00:28:46.498 --> 00:28:48.826
that he's, like, going to be globe hotting,

624
00:28:49.018 --> 00:28:51.858
hopping like that because he's going to go to Korea and then he's going to go

625
00:28:51.874 --> 00:28:54.530
to Spain. I mean, I mean, it's just like, okay,

626
00:28:54.570 --> 00:28:57.558
what? But anyway, I felt

627
00:28:57.582 --> 00:29:00.446
that that was, speaking of after school specials and stuff, that

628
00:29:00.486 --> 00:29:03.422
was so, like, just the whole quest in the

629
00:29:03.454 --> 00:29:06.414
cave, I just was like, you know, I was just like, okay,

630
00:29:06.430 --> 00:29:08.862
this is, like, dollar story and fire strikes back Luke Skywalker

631
00:29:08.894 --> 00:29:09.546
moment.

632
00:29:11.456 --> 00:29:14.248
whenever Chris was going in there with the cobra

633
00:29:14.312 --> 00:29:17.136
and trying to retrieve the knife and stuff, I mean, that,

634
00:29:17.296 --> 00:29:20.256
that I will,

635
00:29:20.296 --> 00:29:23.048
you know, that stuff just, it

636
00:29:23.152 --> 00:29:26.008
drove me nuts as far as just,

637
00:29:26.032 --> 00:29:28.904
like, watching, like, okay, let me just. I

638
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.596
just started, like, scrolling my phone with that. Right?

639
00:29:31.756 --> 00:29:33.736
Yeah, I will say

640
00:29:35.316 --> 00:29:37.988
I actually, even with all the

641
00:29:38.012 --> 00:29:40.564
problems with this show, but

642
00:29:40.660 --> 00:29:43.612
mainly the main one is it's just gone on too long

643
00:29:43.724 --> 00:29:46.644
because really, after they had to wrap up

644
00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:49.636
with silver and everything last season, I think that was it. I

645
00:29:49.636 --> 00:29:52.540
mean, where whenever you're, like, trying to create, you

646
00:29:52.548 --> 00:29:55.340
know, whatever, whenever they're trying to manufacture drama, like,

647
00:29:55.388 --> 00:29:58.356
with Johnny, trying to get the girls to fight just to get their

648
00:29:58.396 --> 00:30:01.068
edge back and stuff, then, you know, if you, you know, you've gone too

649
00:30:01.092 --> 00:30:03.824
long. But, it's still entertaining. I mean,

650
00:30:03.888 --> 00:30:06.864
actually, I binged it all Sunday, actually, kind of. It was

651
00:30:06.888 --> 00:30:09.790
like, I wasn't, like, mad after I finished benching, and I was like, oh,

652
00:30:09.806 --> 00:30:12.638
yes. You know, it's a fun tv.

653
00:30:12.710 --> 00:30:15.682
You know, m fun, moundless tv for a Sunday afternoon.

654
00:30:16.182 --> 00:30:19.086
Sarah : Yeah, I binged it all on Sunday afternoon because

655
00:30:19.134 --> 00:30:21.910
I knew I had to talk to you about it, not because

656
00:30:21.966 --> 00:30:23.118
I wanted to.

657
00:30:23.270 --> 00:30:23.722
Will: Yeah.

658
00:30:23.722 --> 00:30:26.532
Sarah : it didn't make me madden. I

659
00:30:26.604 --> 00:30:29.588
knew what to expect. I, like, there was like, I know

660
00:30:29.612 --> 00:30:32.604
what I'm getting into by this point. I know what I'm

661
00:30:32.620 --> 00:30:35.348
getting into. So my

662
00:30:35.372 --> 00:30:37.256
expectations, arguably, are low.

663
00:30:37.956 --> 00:30:40.292
So in a way, they meet my

664
00:30:40.324 --> 00:30:41.292
expectations.

665
00:30:41.484 --> 00:30:43.868
Will: Yeah, I'm not expecting.

666
00:30:43.892 --> 00:30:46.456
Sarah : Yeah, I expect this.

667
00:30:46.756 --> 00:30:49.604
I'm not surprised. It's just annoying. There's

668
00:30:49.620 --> 00:30:52.542
just so many annoying. something that

669
00:30:52.574 --> 00:30:55.526
stuck out to me throughout all the

670
00:30:55.606 --> 00:30:58.454
episodes was just how I find it very

671
00:30:58.510 --> 00:31:01.146
interesting how

672
00:31:01.526 --> 00:31:04.326
initially, the rivalry

673
00:31:04.446 --> 00:31:06.718
was between Robbie and

674
00:31:06.742 --> 00:31:09.622
Miguel, and that was carried, arguably,

675
00:31:09.694 --> 00:31:11.826
the first two seasons because

676
00:31:12.886 --> 00:31:15.746
you had them being rivals,

677
00:31:16.636 --> 00:31:19.556
for love, and then you had them also with

678
00:31:19.596 --> 00:31:22.460
Johnny as Robbie's actual dad and

679
00:31:22.508 --> 00:31:25.000
Miguel viewing Johnny as a father

680
00:31:25.048 --> 00:31:27.784
figure. Yeah, they have put

681
00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:30.576
that on the, like, they have done

682
00:31:30.616 --> 00:31:33.568
away with that. They didn't even try

683
00:31:33.632 --> 00:31:36.312
to do anything. Reuniting. It was

684
00:31:36.344 --> 00:31:39.254
just all about, who do I hate?

685
00:31:39.310 --> 00:31:40.454
Mary or.

686
00:31:40.630 --> 00:31:42.926
Will: Yeah, Tori and,

687
00:31:43.156 --> 00:31:46.112
no, who's

688
00:31:46.144 --> 00:31:46.864
Danny's daughter.

689
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:47.758
Sarah : What's Sam?

690
00:31:47.872 --> 00:31:48.330
Will: Sam.

691
00:31:48.418 --> 00:31:51.362
Sarah : Yeah. It was all about Sam and Tori and their

692
00:31:51.434 --> 00:31:54.010
rivalry, which kind of cooled

693
00:31:54.058 --> 00:31:56.730
off, but. But I'm like,

694
00:31:56.778 --> 00:31:59.554
Tori. Sam is just annoying whenever she talks.

695
00:31:59.650 --> 00:32:01.970
I'm sorry. I really just don't like Sam.

696
00:32:02.098 --> 00:32:03.766
Will: I know. I thought about that.

697
00:32:05.586 --> 00:32:08.098
Sarah : Yeah. And then. And then you.

698
00:32:08.202 --> 00:32:11.178
They have a scene, which. It's funny because you

699
00:32:11.202 --> 00:32:14.074
mentioned, like, how Chris goes back to Korea. I

700
00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:17.120
honestly thought he was still in the valley. Okay,

701
00:32:17.168 --> 00:32:19.632
I'm going to put that right now. Thought he was

702
00:32:19.664 --> 00:32:22.272
still hiding out in the woods in the valley

703
00:32:22.424 --> 00:32:25.424
because he just randomly is able to come back to

704
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.200
the states and. And have this

705
00:32:28.248 --> 00:32:30.576
one on one conversation with. With

706
00:32:30.616 --> 00:32:33.448
Tori right before her mother

707
00:32:33.512 --> 00:32:36.360
dies. And then that leads her

708
00:32:36.448 --> 00:32:38.196
to, like, remember,

709
00:32:39.106 --> 00:32:41.702
Danny's always going to place his. His child

710
00:32:41.774 --> 00:32:44.714
before. Before you. Well, like, that's his kid,

711
00:32:44.770 --> 00:32:47.674
but, like, it's just

712
00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:50.618
this weird. Like. And then, of course, she's going to

713
00:32:50.642 --> 00:32:53.082
show up at the end, like, on the other

714
00:32:53.154 --> 00:32:55.486
team. So. So I.

715
00:32:56.706 --> 00:32:59.446
It's. It's so predictable

716
00:32:59.786 --> 00:33:02.762
and annoying, but I just. I want to.

717
00:33:02.874 --> 00:33:05.506
Like, if I had a question for the writers, it would

718
00:33:05.546 --> 00:33:08.270
be, Like, at what point

719
00:33:08.398 --> 00:33:10.770
did you decide that the boys

720
00:33:10.858 --> 00:33:13.746
rivalry, which, arguably,

721
00:33:13.906 --> 00:33:16.674
I appreciated just for the fact of how it

722
00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:18.206
involved Johnny.

723
00:33:19.476 --> 00:33:21.616
from the perspective of

724
00:33:22.436 --> 00:33:25.284
not really being in Robbie's life, getting

725
00:33:25.340 --> 00:33:28.204
a second chance with Miguel, and now getting the second

726
00:33:28.260 --> 00:33:30.572
chance with Robbie, like, that was very

727
00:33:30.644 --> 00:33:33.220
complicated and interesting. It was

728
00:33:33.348 --> 00:33:35.924
whole girl fight drama, though. Oh, my

729
00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:38.888
God. You're having to kill moms. And

730
00:33:38.992 --> 00:33:41.416
there is no substitute mom. Like.

731
00:33:41.576 --> 00:33:44.240
Like, here's a prediction. By the

732
00:33:44.288 --> 00:33:47.076
end of the final season,

733
00:33:47.446 --> 00:33:50.084
the Lerosos are going to adopt Sam,

734
00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.564
or. No, not adopt Sam. Tori.

735
00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:55.428
Will: Yeah. Yeah, that's. Yeah, well, I mean, because. Yeah,

736
00:33:55.452 --> 00:33:58.380
because. Because that's

737
00:33:58.428 --> 00:34:01.428
not a bad theory. Because she was. She did

738
00:34:01.452 --> 00:34:04.308
have the Larussos listed as a contact with me. It was, you know, Miss

739
00:34:04.332 --> 00:34:06.842
Luco that, got the phone call from the

740
00:34:06.866 --> 00:34:08.716
hospital. which.

741
00:34:09.696 --> 00:34:12.688
Yeah. And that whole scene. I mean, I don't know, it just. It

742
00:34:12.712 --> 00:34:13.596
just felt.

743
00:34:15.656 --> 00:34:18.416
Sarah : It was the editing on that. I know

744
00:34:18.456 --> 00:34:20.276
exactly what you're talking about.

745
00:34:21.456 --> 00:34:24.312
So poorly edited. Because I feel

746
00:34:24.344 --> 00:34:26.984
like d. Like she gets the call,

747
00:34:27.160 --> 00:34:29.608
she realizes. Then she tells

748
00:34:29.672 --> 00:34:32.246
Danny, you have to stop the fight.

749
00:34:32.416 --> 00:34:34.754
And then, I swear to God, at least three

750
00:34:34.810 --> 00:34:37.570
minutes goes on before he actually

751
00:34:37.698 --> 00:34:38.650
stops the fight.

752
00:34:38.698 --> 00:34:41.442
Will: He stops the fight. And then also just the character choices

753
00:34:41.474 --> 00:34:43.954
that at that point with Johnny, it's just

754
00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:46.882
like, I don't feel like

755
00:34:46.914 --> 00:34:49.906
anything was earned in that moment or him, like, regressing to,

756
00:34:49.946 --> 00:34:52.906
like, you know, because they make all this

757
00:34:52.946 --> 00:34:55.802
effort to, like, make him, you know, Miyagi doe and

758
00:34:55.834 --> 00:34:58.586
balance and all that kind of stuff. And then he just

759
00:34:58.626 --> 00:35:01.562
like, it's like, no, fuck,

760
00:35:01.594 --> 00:35:04.434
no. Go. Let's fight. Let's finish this now. Fight it out. Fight it

761
00:35:04.450 --> 00:35:07.426
out. And I'm like, no, this is just,

762
00:35:07.586 --> 00:35:10.286
it's just the whole thing just like,

763
00:35:11.186 --> 00:35:13.746
just played this terribly for me.

764
00:35:13.906 --> 00:35:16.346
Sarah : Yeah. They have a very hard

765
00:35:16.426 --> 00:35:19.326
time, the writers do

766
00:35:19.666 --> 00:35:21.770
with growing these

767
00:35:21.818 --> 00:35:24.266
characters, but also

768
00:35:24.386 --> 00:35:26.642
keeping the conflict,

769
00:35:26.834 --> 00:35:28.880
like, there.

770
00:35:29.008 --> 00:35:29.726
Will: Yeah.

771
00:35:29.726 --> 00:35:32.558
Sarah : and they initially, arguably. Hey, I'm gonna

772
00:35:32.582 --> 00:35:34.958
say something nice. They did a decent

773
00:35:35.022 --> 00:35:37.878
job for, like, the first few episodes

774
00:35:37.982 --> 00:35:40.346
was just a sense, like, clearly,

775
00:35:41.086 --> 00:35:43.886
like, the fact that the old dojo got

776
00:35:43.926 --> 00:35:46.638
torn down and. And that's something

777
00:35:46.702 --> 00:35:49.422
that arguably excited Danny, but at the same

778
00:35:49.494 --> 00:35:52.160
time, it meant something

779
00:35:52.248 --> 00:35:55.116
different for Johnny. so, and so

780
00:35:55.156 --> 00:35:57.736
that was good. Even his. His,

781
00:35:57.996 --> 00:36:00.884
Johnny getting. Getting

782
00:36:00.980 --> 00:36:02.046
into it with,

783
00:36:06.626 --> 00:36:09.162
Which may, again, makes sense,

784
00:36:09.354 --> 00:36:12.006
but I mean,

785
00:36:12.586 --> 00:36:15.418
for it to really. To

786
00:36:15.442 --> 00:36:17.246
your point, for it to really

787
00:36:18.456 --> 00:36:20.766
big, makes sense in terms of his

788
00:36:20.806 --> 00:36:23.694
character, we have to have, like, have had

789
00:36:23.750 --> 00:36:26.718
a moment earlier in the season or previous

790
00:36:26.822 --> 00:36:29.230
seasons where. Where Johnny

791
00:36:29.278 --> 00:36:31.950
explains how he's dealt with grief

792
00:36:32.118 --> 00:36:35.070
through fighting and all of this stuff. And then,

793
00:36:35.198 --> 00:36:37.846
and then you can see, like, why he decides, takes

794
00:36:37.886 --> 00:36:40.186
Tori's side. But, but, like,

795
00:36:40.486 --> 00:36:43.310
like, that doesn't make sense. It would make more

796
00:36:43.358 --> 00:36:46.148
sense if you swap Tori with Robbie. Like,

797
00:36:46.212 --> 00:36:48.616
that's like. But

798
00:36:49.196 --> 00:36:52.076
it's just, it's just I can

799
00:36:52.116 --> 00:36:52.696
understand,

800
00:36:54.716 --> 00:36:57.616
like, like, I knew how it was gonna play out.

801
00:36:58.126 --> 00:37:00.954
but it's just. And it's not frustrating. It's just

802
00:37:01.010 --> 00:37:03.834
annoying. Like, like, come on.

803
00:37:03.930 --> 00:37:06.882
Because, I mean, to your point, it's still. The

804
00:37:06.914 --> 00:37:09.868
show isn't as, long

805
00:37:09.908 --> 00:37:12.244
as Johnny's there being

806
00:37:12.316 --> 00:37:15.124
Johnny. Yeah, he, he keeps me

807
00:37:15.156 --> 00:37:17.444
engaged. Like, if you remove. If Johnny

808
00:37:17.516 --> 00:37:20.516
wasn't in this, like, these five

809
00:37:20.572 --> 00:37:23.308
episodes, I would have probably texted

810
00:37:23.348 --> 00:37:26.100
you around the first half of the

811
00:37:26.124 --> 00:37:28.328
first episode and been like, I can't do it.

812
00:37:29.468 --> 00:37:31.088
Can't get me out.

813
00:37:32.988 --> 00:37:35.288
Will: What else? What else do we want to talk about this week?

814
00:37:35.868 --> 00:37:38.208
Sarah : Yeah, we need something else.

815
00:37:39.788 --> 00:37:42.698
Will: I completely agree. I completely agree. And it's just like,

816
00:37:42.788 --> 00:37:45.498
yeah, I mean, Williams, Abkha, he just

817
00:37:46.878 --> 00:37:49.790
this. And I guess that's the thing, too. It's

818
00:37:49.814 --> 00:37:52.414
just like, you know, like whenever

819
00:37:52.486 --> 00:37:54.982
Stingray was trying to lure him back

820
00:37:55.150 --> 00:37:58.024
into Cobra Kai with the, you know, making it seem like Kreese

821
00:37:58.056 --> 00:38:01.016
was the one, you know, you know, going back to that spot in the

822
00:38:01.032 --> 00:38:03.400
woods and stuff and then Johnny's like, no,

823
00:38:03.584 --> 00:38:06.480
I put Cobra Kai behind me and put

824
00:38:06.504 --> 00:38:09.200
by extension of that eagle thing as well because that's just an

825
00:38:09.224 --> 00:38:11.978
extension of what Cobra Kai was. I mean,

826
00:38:12.398 --> 00:38:15.342
so it's just so, you know, so they're doing all these great

827
00:38:15.390 --> 00:38:17.098
moments. They,

828
00:38:18.118 --> 00:38:20.890
you know, they try to like, again,

829
00:38:20.994 --> 00:38:23.722
I think part of the problem with this, with, with this

830
00:38:23.770 --> 00:38:26.770
season is the big, big,

831
00:38:26.834 --> 00:38:29.706
big conflicts all got wrapped up at the end of season five,

832
00:38:29.762 --> 00:38:32.722
especially with Terry Silver being arrested. I

833
00:38:32.730 --> 00:38:35.690
mean, and so at this point, this

834
00:38:35.714 --> 00:38:38.666
is like, okay, the big drama. The

835
00:38:38.682 --> 00:38:41.554
first part of this season is just like, okay, now where are the kids gonna go to

836
00:38:41.586 --> 00:38:44.554
college? Where, you know, and they try to manufacture some stuff

837
00:38:44.586 --> 00:38:47.274
with Kenny and his brother and Robbie. But

838
00:38:47.386 --> 00:38:49.834
even at that, Kenny's brother's like, no,

839
00:38:49.906 --> 00:38:52.338
look, go back to the dojo

840
00:38:52.378 --> 00:38:55.218
because they. They're onto

841
00:38:55.258 --> 00:38:57.358
something here. So all, you know, so,

842
00:38:58.898 --> 00:39:01.706
you know, so all the things that are happening

843
00:39:01.762 --> 00:39:04.704
and of course, you know, and it feels like it's just

844
00:39:04.736 --> 00:39:07.592
wash, rinse, repeat with like, Dimitri and Hawk and their

845
00:39:07.640 --> 00:39:10.512
conflicts. I mean, now, you know, they just. This time they just centered

846
00:39:10.560 --> 00:39:13.480
around Hawk not applying to MIT. I mean, it's so.

847
00:39:13.504 --> 00:39:16.320
It's just like I said earlier, I just think the show has

848
00:39:16.344 --> 00:39:19.256
just reached a point where it has gone as far as it can go and

849
00:39:19.272 --> 00:39:21.108
it just needs to end. Which it is.

850
00:39:21.108 --> 00:39:22.648
Sarah : yeah. And they keep.

851
00:39:24.228 --> 00:39:26.924
I wouldn't be surprised, especially based on

852
00:39:26.956 --> 00:39:29.368
how the. The

853
00:39:29.698 --> 00:39:32.474
episode two went, how

854
00:39:32.626 --> 00:39:35.570
if they, like, Chris is gonna end up back in

855
00:39:35.594 --> 00:39:38.418
jail, don't get me wrong, but there is gonna be

856
00:39:38.458 --> 00:39:39.202
redemption.

857
00:39:39.330 --> 00:39:39.874
Will: Yeah.

858
00:39:39.986 --> 00:39:42.194
Sarah : They're gonna try for it because

859
00:39:42.386 --> 00:39:45.146
apparently everyone but silver. Wait. Which, I

860
00:39:45.162 --> 00:39:47.954
mean, there is like 15 episodes.

861
00:39:47.986 --> 00:39:50.354
So silver might get out eventually,

862
00:39:50.546 --> 00:39:53.034
but I think overall,

863
00:39:53.226 --> 00:39:54.958
what they. What they.

864
00:39:57.828 --> 00:40:00.756
What they have not established and why

865
00:40:00.852 --> 00:40:02.844
the writing has continued to go

866
00:40:02.916 --> 00:40:04.968
downhill is

867
00:40:05.948 --> 00:40:07.456
a, clear villain.

868
00:40:08.456 --> 00:40:11.456
Sarah : They keep redeeming the villains, or they

869
00:40:11.496 --> 00:40:14.360
keep. I mean, they

870
00:40:14.408 --> 00:40:16.196
should make Danny the villain.

871
00:40:18.736 --> 00:40:21.656
Will: I guess that's. Maybe that's what they're trying to do

872
00:40:21.696 --> 00:40:24.562
with Miyagi this season. Even

873
00:40:24.594 --> 00:40:26.436
though, again, that's.

874
00:40:28.296 --> 00:40:30.952
Sarah : Nobody really. I'm going to just say nobody

875
00:40:30.984 --> 00:40:33.036
really cares about that.

876
00:40:34.616 --> 00:40:37.446
I feel like if you, got

877
00:40:37.486 --> 00:40:39.542
on board with Cobra Kai.

878
00:40:39.654 --> 00:40:41.826
Okay, first season,

879
00:40:42.686 --> 00:40:45.558
like, yes, I understand who

880
00:40:45.582 --> 00:40:48.238
Danny is. Very relevant. Yes.

881
00:40:48.302 --> 00:40:51.298
Central character, lead hero, blah, blah, blah.

882
00:40:51.462 --> 00:40:54.322
But what really sucked you in was

883
00:40:54.394 --> 00:40:56.906
starting to understand the story through

884
00:40:56.946 --> 00:40:58.346
Johnny's perspective.

885
00:40:58.466 --> 00:40:59.166
Will: Yeah.

886
00:40:59.826 --> 00:41:02.682
Sarah : And then to also still have

887
00:41:02.714 --> 00:41:05.366
him be Johnny yet

888
00:41:05.706 --> 00:41:08.570
try to be a better version of him through

889
00:41:08.618 --> 00:41:11.406
the guidance of Danny. I just

890
00:41:11.786 --> 00:41:14.466
Miyagi is very important. But at the

891
00:41:14.506 --> 00:41:17.066
same time, I feel

892
00:41:17.106 --> 00:41:19.696
like you're trying to have a whole Miyagi

893
00:41:19.776 --> 00:41:22.608
storyline flush out

894
00:41:22.672 --> 00:41:25.636
in like a later season. Like what,

895
00:41:25.586 --> 00:41:28.514
what about more dealing with, with going

896
00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:31.178
back to, like, where it started, which is

897
00:41:31.362 --> 00:41:34.126
for Cobra Kai is with Johnny.

898
00:41:35.506 --> 00:41:38.354
Will: Yeah, well, I mean. Well, yeah,

899
00:41:38.410 --> 00:41:41.114
that's, that's a very good point. And you're right. I mean, I think the

900
00:41:41.130 --> 00:41:43.206
Miyagi story especially doesn't,

901
00:41:43.626 --> 00:41:46.554
doesn't work as far as it's

902
00:41:46.570 --> 00:41:49.250
just the MacGuffin

903
00:41:49.418 --> 00:41:51.986
for, you know,

904
00:41:52.026 --> 00:41:54.906
again, the manufacturer trauma because

905
00:41:54.946 --> 00:41:57.266
at the end of the day, they're not

906
00:41:57.386 --> 00:42:00.162
especially Malfag. Even the

907
00:42:00.194 --> 00:42:03.018
episode that he, you know, he directed, I think that third episode where they

908
00:42:03.042 --> 00:42:05.970
found a mystery box and, and the article

909
00:42:06.018 --> 00:42:08.442
and stuff, I mean, they'll tease the

910
00:42:08.474 --> 00:42:11.410
deconstruction of our hero, but the end of the

911
00:42:11.458 --> 00:42:14.310
day, they're already starting to show, like with the, with the, with

912
00:42:14.358 --> 00:42:17.022
the fact that he competed in the competitions whenever he was

913
00:42:17.054 --> 00:42:19.902
younger and stuff. Why, you know, they're already doing

914
00:42:19.934 --> 00:42:22.902
the escape hatch to basically not deconstruct and

915
00:42:22.934 --> 00:42:25.910
not tear down our hero here. Even though they're trying to tease it, we know at the end

916
00:42:25.918 --> 00:42:28.870
of the day they're not going to do it, but they're not going to

917
00:42:28.958 --> 00:42:31.926
dishonor the memory of pat Morita that way.

918
00:42:32.086 --> 00:42:32.786
Sarah : Right.

919
00:42:34.006 --> 00:42:36.836
Will: Or Miyagi. Yeah, I mean, Miyagi, I'm sorry. I meant that. I meant m.

920
00:42:37.014 --> 00:42:39.990
Name the actor. But, you know, but Miyagi that way, they're not, they're just not going

921
00:42:39.998 --> 00:42:42.978
to do it. I mean, it's just, they'll tease it, but it's not going to

922
00:42:43.002 --> 00:42:43.522
happen.

923
00:42:43.674 --> 00:42:44.026
Sarah : Yeah.

924
00:42:44.066 --> 00:42:46.648
Will: So it's just sort of like, So you're right. It is. Again, it's

925
00:42:46.672 --> 00:42:47.528
predictable.

926
00:42:47.712 --> 00:42:50.512
Sarah : Yeah. And it's just, it's just to try to

927
00:42:50.544 --> 00:42:53.272
keep Danny relevant, especially when

928
00:42:53.424 --> 00:42:56.400
in the first episode, he basically looks at

929
00:42:56.408 --> 00:42:58.944
the camera and says, this is my swan

930
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.808
song. And

931
00:43:01.832 --> 00:43:04.756
then I, and now I'm looking into the camera saying,

932
00:43:05.176 --> 00:43:07.736
why, why does it have to be for 15 episodes

933
00:43:07.776 --> 00:43:10.716
long? Like, what, what

934
00:43:11.376 --> 00:43:13.536
could have been five episodes? Okay, come on.

935
00:43:13.576 --> 00:43:16.336
Will: Yeah, yeah. When Netflix finally decides to, like,

936
00:43:16.376 --> 00:43:19.288
break stuff up, they, they, they have a, they

937
00:43:19.312 --> 00:43:21.992
have a weird way. This is one of those situations

938
00:43:22.024 --> 00:43:24.944
where it's okay to, like, let it be the full 15 all

939
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:27.784
at once. Because the way this story is

940
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.816
structured, this is the, this is, this is a

941
00:43:30.856 --> 00:43:32.916
story where binging works.

942
00:43:33.496 --> 00:43:36.216
Sarah : I, you know, I mentioned before I watched the

943
00:43:36.256 --> 00:43:39.218
first five episodes of season four or

944
00:43:39.242 --> 00:43:42.122
five of Emily in Paris, I felt the same way. I was

945
00:43:42.154 --> 00:43:44.646
like, what? What is this? This,

946
00:43:44.916 --> 00:43:47.820
first of all, it's so incomplete, and then it

947
00:43:47.828 --> 00:43:50.764
just gives you more time to reflect on some of, like,

948
00:43:50.820 --> 00:43:53.348
the weird

949
00:43:53.412 --> 00:43:55.788
choices these characters are making.

950
00:43:55.972 --> 00:43:58.836
Will: Yeah. Just to go back to the earlier conversation, whereas

951
00:43:58.956 --> 00:44:01.508
Disney having problems trying to, like, you

952
00:44:01.532 --> 00:44:04.454
know, and, you know, I guess both. It's funny

953
00:44:04.470 --> 00:44:07.230
with these streaming platforms trying to see them try to do

954
00:44:07.318 --> 00:44:10.174
old fashioned linear television, they just can't figure it

955
00:44:10.190 --> 00:44:13.046
out because the whole, the whole

956
00:44:13.086 --> 00:44:15.862
construct of that, the streaming platforms, is,

957
00:44:16.054 --> 00:44:18.982
at its core, was the binge model. So

958
00:44:19.014 --> 00:44:21.942
now they're trying to, like, put that back in, you know, trying

959
00:44:21.974 --> 00:44:24.854
to do this bench model, but with this modified linear

960
00:44:24.910 --> 00:44:27.826
model, it just becomes a complete cluster.

961
00:44:28.576 --> 00:44:31.368
Sarah : right. But that is because what they don't

962
00:44:31.432 --> 00:44:34.320
recognize is that the

963
00:44:34.368 --> 00:44:37.216
linear structure that was written

964
00:44:37.256 --> 00:44:37.960
in a way.

965
00:44:38.088 --> 00:44:38.512
Will: Yeah.

966
00:44:38.584 --> 00:44:40.976
Sarah : Like, the episodes could stand

967
00:44:41.056 --> 00:44:43.556
alone for a week at a time.

968
00:44:43.936 --> 00:44:46.568
While the way Netflix in

969
00:44:46.592 --> 00:44:49.464
particular, because they started off, like,

970
00:44:49.640 --> 00:44:51.996
with, especially with their original series,

971
00:44:52.456 --> 00:44:55.392
were because people go there to binge

972
00:44:55.424 --> 00:44:58.102
the first season and they.

973
00:44:58.174 --> 00:45:00.902
Those episodes every, like,

974
00:45:01.014 --> 00:45:03.862
it makes no sense to break those up because

975
00:45:03.934 --> 00:45:06.854
it's like it was written in a way that you

976
00:45:06.870 --> 00:45:09.506
would watch it by binging it.

977
00:45:09.606 --> 00:45:12.038
I was thinking about this earlier today because

978
00:45:12.222 --> 00:45:15.152
I've been, I think they've been on for about four

979
00:45:15.224 --> 00:45:17.970
months now. Sterling K. Brown,

980
00:45:18.018 --> 00:45:19.526
Mandy Moore, and,

981
00:45:21.186 --> 00:45:23.946
I forget. I'm so I'm going to apologize.

982
00:45:24.026 --> 00:45:26.836
But chris something. all from this is

983
00:45:26.876 --> 00:45:29.726
us. they are doing a rewatch. Ah,

984
00:45:30.322 --> 00:45:33.066
podcast of this is us. Been doing it for

985
00:45:33.106 --> 00:45:36.002
weeks now, watching, bringing on people who've

986
00:45:36.034 --> 00:45:39.006
been on it. Very good, very entertaining.

987
00:45:39.136 --> 00:45:42.052
and they even brought it up. They're like, this, arguably, this was

988
00:45:42.084 --> 00:45:44.980
us, was the last show that

989
00:45:45.028 --> 00:45:47.796
is, like, traditional television, week

990
00:45:47.836 --> 00:45:49.876
to week watching.

991
00:45:51.026 --> 00:45:51.766
and

992
00:45:53.626 --> 00:45:56.226
especially on a network, I'm going to

993
00:45:56.306 --> 00:45:59.178
classify that because, yeah, House of Dragon was week to

994
00:45:59.202 --> 00:46:01.938
week. Yeah, but it's,

995
00:46:02.002 --> 00:46:04.962
it's just. But it was also, those episodes are written in that

996
00:46:04.994 --> 00:46:07.746
way. Like, those are consolidated, hour

997
00:46:07.826 --> 00:46:10.642
long things of tv that,

998
00:46:10.674 --> 00:46:13.362
yes, connect, but not in a

999
00:46:13.394 --> 00:46:16.272
way where it's like, let me just binge all

1000
00:46:16.304 --> 00:46:17.676
of season one.

1001
00:46:19.256 --> 00:46:22.128
Like, okay, you can. But

1002
00:46:22.192 --> 00:46:23.756
it's also like

1003
00:46:25.216 --> 00:46:28.168
they knew, like, oh, we're going to have a two week break

1004
00:46:28.232 --> 00:46:30.864
because of Thanksgiving, so we're going to leave you with a

1005
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.840
cliffhanger, or we're going to leave with a curl

1006
00:46:33.848 --> 00:46:36.836
of hanger just because we want you talking about the show,

1007
00:46:37.336 --> 00:46:40.280
for the next week. So, yeah,

1008
00:46:40.328 --> 00:46:43.276
anyways, I just, I feel like,

1009
00:46:44.416 --> 00:46:47.304
they. They did not. They did

1010
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:49.920
not realize that the impact of binge

1011
00:46:50.008 --> 00:46:52.792
tv watching would have on just

1012
00:46:52.904 --> 00:46:55.592
how, in general, tv is formatted and

1013
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written.

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Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

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For sure. And so. Yeah, so now. Yeah, so

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now we, you know, we get these five blocks

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of three blocks of five, with

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Cobra Kai. And, I will be interested to

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see

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how long they stretch this tournament out.

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Will the tournament just be the next

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five episodes? And then I guess the back

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five will be, like you said, maybe it is the redemption

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story for Kreese,

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after this whole tournament. And, because everyone else at this

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point has had their turn, even. Even Mike

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Barnes, you know, he's now

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been redeemed. So basically,

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all is left is for crease to turn good and for, Hillary

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swanks character to show up. Even though she. Even though I think her

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character is not only. I think the only thing that ties

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her to the rest of them is just Miyagi.

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Sarah : Right.

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Will: Yeah.

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Sarah : Right. Which. That's not a bad tie to

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have.

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Will: Yeah, that's not a bad tie to have. Yeah, exactly. And, you

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know, keeping with. Keeping with the themes,

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of the movies. I mean, she was in the 6th movie,

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so. And it is a six season, so here we go.

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Sarah : Yeah. All right. Well,

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on that note, will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can

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find you?

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Will: Yes, you can find me on, x, formally m known as. As,

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Twitter at, Will and Polk. W I l l

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Sarah : O l K. You can follow me there, too,

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