Dragons & Supes: House of the Dragon S2 E5 and The Boys S4 E7 Reviews!

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>> Sarah : Greetings, nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont. And with me, m,

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as always, is our mister producer, will polk. How are you doing tonight,

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will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. How are you doing this evening?

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>> Sarah : I'm good.

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I don't know what's more surprising than I actually

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watched the Captain America four trailer

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or that I watched a movie.

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>> Will: Well, let's start with a Captain America four

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trailer. Actually, I'm curious about

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what movie you watched.

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>> Sarah : I was going to say.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : No, so, so again, and

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actually, more surprisingly, it's a movie that came out this

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year. Oh. And it wasn't on

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streaming. I just saw that Amazon had it, like, at

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a very discounted rate to buy. So

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I'm like, okay, it was challengers

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because that was the other movie that I had,

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like, oh, I'm curious about that. so

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I watched it again Sunday afternoon in between the

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boys and, House of Duragan.

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So my expectations had been

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lowered because one of my brothers had Scene the movie

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and told me some stuff about it

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that, some critiques he had. So

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I guess I was not as caught off

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guard as if I had not known how.

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Some of the ADR and the sound

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editing and mixing, washing

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was pretty bad.

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>> Will: Sounds like Copa the other night with

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the.

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>> Sarah : Here's the thing. I had subtitles

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on, but the subtitles were not even helping me

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figure out what they were talking about in some of these

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scenes. And it was interesting because I'm curious

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if this movie was shot in

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order. I mean, technically, it couldn't

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like it because the

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sound, it got better as it went

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on. It was. There were some beginning scenes

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where you're just like, I have no idea what they're, what they

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just said. It sounds like they're whispering. I

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don't know why.

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>> Will: Oh, gosh.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. It's like Tenet level, where you're just

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like, what is happening? But overall,

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the movie is good. I think people

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hyped it up a bit much.

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I don't think. I don't

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know how Zendaya will ever

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not top, like, will ever top her performance

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in euphoria. Like, that is such

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an iconic. And especially season two, there's

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a full episode like

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that I even watched. And I said, well, she's going to get another

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Emmy because for her to have done

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that and go through withdrawal in that way

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and showcase that is just crazy.

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So I don't know really why a lot of

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critics were raving about her performance. I mean, the

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character was definitely written in a certain way. I don't

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know. I don't necessarily agree that she

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brought anything to it.

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And keep in mind, she's why I

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wanted to watch it. I really respect

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her as an actress. and I'm always curious about what she

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does and choices she makes.

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her boys, if we shall say,

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I believe it's.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong, I want to say it's Josh

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O'Connor from the crown, season four,

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who played. Yeah, it's Josh O'Connor and

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Mike feast. both of them are really

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good.

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and I think it was more

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of a showcase of them and what they could do

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because, I mean, outside of maybe one or two

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roles, neither of them have had much

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of a. Not, been seen too much.

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So. So it was good. but overall,

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yeah. I'm also glad I didn't go to the theaters

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because that's definitely

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Sunday afternoon. Pop it on movie.

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And yeah, there's sex. and it's a

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sexy movie, kind of, sort of. It's

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about tennis.

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>> Will: Okay. Yeah, yeah. Very

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appropriate. You watched it the day of the Wimbledon final?

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>> Sarah : Well, you know, I try.

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Sometimes I don't even try and it just works out that

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way. But, like, that's

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another thing that I had. I wish they would have

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given me more explanation about some of the rhetoric

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because I've never played tennis. I've never really even

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watched tennis, so I had no idea what was going on

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in terms of point, match, set, break.

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Yeah. How long is the tennis

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match? Because this is going on.

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>> Will: It go. It can go long, especially. Yeah, it,

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ah, can go long for sure.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. A few days long because.

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>> Will: No, no, but

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it could go. It can go for. It can go for a few hours.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Anyway, so, so I watched that

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and I, I think that's.

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Did Captain America four come out Sunday as

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well?

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>> Will: It dropped Friday.

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>> Sarah : Friday. Okay. Well, whenever it dropped, for some

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reason, I clicked on it and I watched it. And then

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yesterday I watched kind of funny do their

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reaction.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : and, yeah, yeah, it's a good

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trailer. I find it funny

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that it's being released on February 14.

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>> Will: I know, I know. Well, I kind of joke when

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I saw the release date put, I didn't put it together

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before, but I was like, oh, it's black history month.

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So.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, there's that, too.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I said, we got black captain America. We got black

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cap. Yeah, we have black history month. Oh,

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yeah. But, convenient reshoots, you know?

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Of course, you know, we did see, John

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Carlo Esposito in this, which I was

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like, man, that's, that's a quick turnaround because they, they just did his

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reshoot. They just did the reshoots like what, a, few weeks

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ago? So that's like guardians of the Galaxy

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comic con level of

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you know, putting out a trailer after they've done some reshoots. But

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yeah, I like the trailer too. Definitely got,

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felt, it felt like the old

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comfortable MCU that we all

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have grown to love that's been missing in

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phases four and five so far. and of

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course.

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>> Sarah : Oh, go ahead.

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>> Will: Oh, no, I was gonna say, yeah, I mean, and of

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course, some of the reactors out there, I don't know if kind of

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funny did, but, you know, folks were

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already starting to draw the, winter soldier

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comparisons to it as far as some of the vibe

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for it and stuff. But, Yeah, I just, I just,

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I really enjoyed it. Love the, I, you know, I'm glad they

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like went ahead and sort of put out there the,

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the cat, obviously since Bill hurt passed

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away and Harrison Ford stepping in for Ross,

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you know, that was a good way to just sort of

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worked it in with the mustache line there in the trailer

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and individuals, and stuff. And of course, the

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payoff of the eternals that we've been like wondering

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where, where is Timbuktu all the time?

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>> Sarah : nobody has been wondering that about that.

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>> Will: Oh, yes they have. Oh, yeah. Every reactor

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you watch on like YouTube, they're like all wondering like

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that, you know.

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>> Sarah : Well, those are the reactors I watch on

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YouTube. It's like, who the. Because,

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and, and, and I saw you tweeted that. And I'm

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like, will you like that movie?

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>> Will: No, but it's always been that little hanging thing that's been out there.

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It's just like, oh, yeah, we're just gonna, we're just gonna have this thing sitting

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in the ocean and nobody's gonna talk about it.

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>> Sarah : Oh my God,

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whatever. Yeah, yeah.

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Definitely don't watch those reactors. No.

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>> Will: well, that's Roka. I mean, come on, you watch Roka.

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>> Sarah : But not, not for this.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Why are you bringing up

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geek buddies?

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>> Will: I mean, you know, Abdul, this is one. I mean, I think Christian, a couple other

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people have mentioned it too, but, Yeah, but really, the first place I actually

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saw was that the tweet that I, like retweeted from our show account.

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But, Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Cool. All right,

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so House of the dragon,

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season two, episode five, region. Amid whispers

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of bad omens, the greens consider how to fill a

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void in Aegon's council. Jae Serras sets out on

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a rogue mission to strike a deal. Daemon and Lis

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lord William Beca would to help

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persuade the Barakans to bend the knee.

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I actually want to start with Damon

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anyway, because the dude

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just had a vision that he fucked his mom,

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you know? And I think that whole

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sequence was done really

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well because I just.

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I mean, to prove your point, kind of

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watched both Christian and Rocca

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watch the whole

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episode, and,

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both of them had different, like, the way

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they played the scene. Every viewer

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is running through their mind, who is this? Who is

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this girl? Like, and. And they

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had some opinions. Like, is

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that, Emma. Ah, who

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was Viserys's wife? Is that.

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Who is that? Nobody guesses, mom.

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>> Will: actually, I thought that. To be honest, I thought that was

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my first reaction. I was watching the scene real time, was like, is he, like,

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hooking up with Viserys wife? That was

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my reaction.

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>> Sarah : Oh, okay. I thought you were going to say the mom.

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>> Will: No, no, no. I didn't see that coming.

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>> Sarah : I was wondering if it was, like

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a. An age

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of Rhaenyra that we hadn't seen yet, because so

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far, his only visions have been of

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Rhaenyra.

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>> Will: That's good.

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>> Sarah : And so I thought it was, like, her in her twenties

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because. Well, her early twenties, late teens,

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because I feel like there's a. There's a.

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There's pretty much a period of time that we didn't really

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see, Renara grow up. So.

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So that worry. Well, but no, it turned out to be the mom,

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who I believe in season one, mentions

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that he killed his mom during

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childbirth.

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>> Will: She. I think it was. I think she was. He was three when

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she died. I think I heard Westeros

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Caesar.

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>> Sarah : I feel like he killed.

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>> Will: That might be. Might be right. It's been a long time. I had to

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double check.

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>> Sarah : yeah. And I feel like that's why there's

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blood and there's something else going on.

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about, like, to have all of these

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visions of Rhaenyra and then suddenly be slapped

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with a mom he never really

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knew. And.

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And there's blood on his hands,

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potentially from. From his mom.

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And now there's all of this political

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drama and, like,

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do women in his life die at his own

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hands? I mean, technically, his late

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wife died of her own

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will. She's like, I'm going out on my

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terms.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : but he still. He didn't have to impregnate

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her.

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>> Will: Yeah, there is a recur. You're right. There is a recurring

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theme with Damon and losing

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significant women in his life.

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>> Sarah : and he's not really helping Renara right now.

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Like, he's making the war harder.

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And she either wins this or she

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dies. Like, there is no alternative at this

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point.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I think of

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Damon, I was just like, I've

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just basically become a new subcategory

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in my notes of just team Damon. And we're watching Game

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of, Game of Thrones, House of the haunting of

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Damon because that's what Harrenhal has really

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become. and

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to your point, about the blood on his hands and not only

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the women in his life, but also just

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literally what actions that

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he has undertaken

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many, several times in this series and most recently this

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season with, again, the hands off

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killing of

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the, you know, of jaehaerys

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and then, of course, the. The, people in the

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Riverlands, with the brackens. And

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so we have worked, obviously, war criminal, criminal

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Damon, who

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in both situations, he's just like, look, the crowd,

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you know, we can't put the. We can't have the queen's hands on this. But

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at the same time, you know what you got to do. So,

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you know, queen.

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>> Sarah : He says, the crown.

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>> Will: Yeah, well, yes, yeah, yeah. but we can't have

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the crown's fingerprints on this. And to that point

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with, you know, we keep seeing these visions of blood on his hands,

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whether it's his mother, you know, when he had the divisions

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and the, in his sleep, in heron hall,

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in the bed there. And I know the. I know the.

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I guess the wood that the. That the

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castle and the chambers and stuff is made out of, you

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know, has some magical properties, too, that

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feed into that. So, you know,

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so with all these visions that he's having, that's why I

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call it the haunting of game.

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You know, it feels like his own little separate show at this point

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where it's just like, we're just dealing with Damon and his quest

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removed from the. From the larger story.

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>> Sarah : Right, right. He, And they're starting

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repairs and restoration on Harrenhal.

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amid all of this continued

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crowns. Lands. Like, there's too many

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lands. Okay, I'm just going to throw that out there because

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all we keep. We keep hearing how, Sir Christian

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has conquered the crown lands. But then

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I also hear things about the Riverlands, and I'm

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like, what

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land is where? Who? What? This is why

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the opening sequence of Game of Thrones worked, because it was

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map. And I'm very disoriented right now.

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On the map as to where is what, especially

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when. When.

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>> Will: Dig out the. Dig out the map from Game of Thrones.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. I don't know how. How far.

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what was it? the last place that they fought

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at Brooks rest.

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Brooks rest is from King's Landing.

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But I felt like it took a few episodes for

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them to get there, and then suddenly, within an episode, they're back. I'm

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just saying. Just. I'm just saying.

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>> Will: I think stress was pretty close, if I recall, compared

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to. To Harrenhal.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. I, just need a map, but.

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So that is what's going on with

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Damon.

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>> Will: Yeah. One last thing with the Damon also just the

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large. The brackens

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in particular, I really wanted to, you know, note

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how, in addition, you

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know, we get, again, more follow up from the,

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proxy war that was going on. You know,

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that the Brackens and the

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Blackwoods have their thing, and, you know, they really look at

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the Targaryens at this point as interlopers. And I just love

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that scene where, you know, Damon's

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there with, caraxes and, you know,

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talking, and the brackens just like,

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you know, have no f's to give. He's just like,

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yeah, you can. You can say all this stuff you want, but we ain't

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backing down. And then whenever they're walking away and.

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And just how they immediately cut to that next scene, I couldn't help

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but think, like, holy grail of, like,

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whenever Arthur was, like, sitting, whenever

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he was trying to recruit knights for the roundtable in mind of python

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and holy grail, when Damon's sitting on that rock, it just had that kind of

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vibe to it, and it's how defeated Damon looked. He's like, I

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just. Yeah, you know, he's here to do

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a job, but he can't kill them because he needs these people. But at

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the same time, he's just, like. They have utterly

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stood up to him, and he's just, like, at wits end as far as what to

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do.

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>> Sarah : Right, right. Yeah. Well, he's also

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losing his mind.

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>> Will: Yeah, there's that little thing.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. so, also

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on team black, we got Corlys,

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who's going through grief right now of his

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late wife. and then,

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you know, just when you think Corlys has

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no woman to put him in his place, his granddaughter

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does. And it's like,

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you shall be the hand,

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and I shall not be your

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heir.

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>> Will: I'm a fire of blood.

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>> Sarah : But she also.

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When she. When she says that,

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well, earlier, she talks about her mom and how her mom

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went out by fire, and that's

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how she wants to die. And I immediately thought, like,

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well, back up a second. So

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you're telling me all targaryens

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are suicidal? Like, all

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y'all are suicidal? Because. And

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I found it very interesting just because,

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like, I. I'm

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seeing the Targaryen in these

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characters. even the

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Hightowers come out more and

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more just because, like,

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Aegon did a stupid thing and he got burned for

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it, literally. But at the same time, it's

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exactly what Rhaenyra wanted to do this entire episode.

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Like, they don't

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like other people.

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They want to take action. They're not people of

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politics or anything.

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they are much more people of

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action. And so it's really hard to sit on the

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sidelines, especially when your side keeps

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losing people. And

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you're like, I thought

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Rhaenyra's,

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why she wanted

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to go made a lot more sense

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and was much more compelling than why Aegon wanted

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to go.

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>> Will: Yeah, for sure. For sure.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that really. That

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really was, driven home

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even more so in this episode. And just sort of her

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rationale and reasons for doing that. And, you know,

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and, you know, she sits there with Baylae and, you know,

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talking about not only trenches whenever she was trying to

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use her to go to corliss to

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convince him to be the hand. And to your point, too, as you know,

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not only her mother, but also her grandmother, you know, going

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out in a blaze of glory like that, too.

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I, think Rhaenyra, ah, Even

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though rationally, she knows that it's

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not prudent for her to be the leader going out on the front

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line, but she does. She

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wants it because, you know, just sitting on the sidelines, hearing

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these old guys sit around and be condescending towards her

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about being the little lady who can't go

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fight. There's that aspect of

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it. but also, like you said, it's just that wanting to

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be there, it's that

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action and want to get their hands

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dirty and do this thing.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. And I don't think it's just about

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the clear sexism that occurs

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on her council. But I find it

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interesting that,

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she, Renara has

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only ever received honest and

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good advice from other

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women because. And she had that in

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Renee's a lot. And now that Reneese

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is gone, you see her have that

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encounter with her small council who's

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made up of men, and. And then

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she. She had a very good comeback to their whole

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point about the worst sex, which is like, yeah,

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yeah. She may be a gentler sex, but she's definitely a smarter

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one because point Rhaenyra.

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And then she goes and talks to the white worm

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and who. Who.

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I've been, like, mixed on

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this whole storyline, but I finally, in this

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episode, I really start to understand why it's

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important that she's there and for Renara

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to be able to get some

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wisdom and guidance from her,

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especially be able to

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communicate what's happening over at

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King's Landing.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So with the people. And

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that's something I really appreciate how

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you. By the point that scene occurs, you've

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already been shown enough of King's landing

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to. For. For you, in your mind,

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being like, yeah, this is good advice. She is spot on.

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You're not. You're not thinking like, I don't remember seeing any of

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that. No, no. white worm was exactly

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right.

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>> Will: Yeah, that. Yeah. That's one of the things I knew when I messaged Sunday

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night, whenever we were, just giving my initial,

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initial spot reaction to it was. I

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think I even. I noted how they're pulling all these threads

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together that we saw earlier in the season,

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with. With the families, and the small

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folk in King's Landing. And. Yeah, it was

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definite payoff with that. And you're right. I mean,

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she, Sarah, the white worm,

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definitely sort of like the,

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unofficial. The hermit and

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baila are the unofficial council, but

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they have been given her spot on advice to fill

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that gap now that Bernice is no longer with

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them. And I love that idea that there's more than one way

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to prosecute a war if we're short

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men. Let's use the situation there in King's Landing,

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especially, what we see

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Eamonn does when he went on. It will get further

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into team green here in a. It shortly. But,

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how he's made a bad

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situation worse with his actions.

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>> Sarah : Right, right. Yeah.

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the use of war, that

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word in this episode, it kept being

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brought up, and

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because it's a war

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between dragonsd. And that was made

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perfectly clear by the events that Brooks. Brooks

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rest and just

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how. Yeah, men can go into battle.

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Like Sir Christian can take all the castles he wants,

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but what's going to ultimately win the war are

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these two beasts who, Yeah. the

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rider can control them to an extent, but they

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have their animals, so they'll take out,

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know, anyone that's in their way, regardless

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of sides or bent knees or anything.

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>> Will: Exactly.

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>> Sarah : To try to. Like,

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that's. That's one war and

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then everyone else is just

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like, oh, great game

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of politics, almost. And

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bickering and their own stuff.

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Jace goes and meets the phrase, secures them, does

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a very good job. he ends

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up still being alive when he returns back

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to Dragonstone, thank God.

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And he managed to have an

508
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alliance. Now, we kind of hate the

509
00:23:24.860 --> 00:23:27.468
phrase, but that's a whole different

510
00:23:27.532 --> 00:23:30.308
story. But it was

511
00:23:30.372 --> 00:23:31.576
funny to see them.

512
00:23:33.316 --> 00:23:35.748
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

513
00:23:35.772 --> 00:23:38.662
Again, coming to the. Coming to the

514
00:23:38.774 --> 00:23:41.646
Game of Thrones world, you know, fresh with house of the dragon.

515
00:23:41.686 --> 00:23:44.422
I don't know, all the lore

516
00:23:44.494 --> 00:23:47.182
and backstory. I mean, you know, just. I do know that

517
00:23:47.214 --> 00:23:49.386
they do have.

518
00:23:50.046 --> 00:23:52.838
The twins and the

519
00:23:52.862 --> 00:23:55.862
fries do have a role, I think, down the line

520
00:23:55.894 --> 00:23:58.786
with one of the Starks. But, But

521
00:23:58.906 --> 00:24:01.810
just watching. Just getting to this episode of this

522
00:24:01.858 --> 00:24:04.006
and seeing Jayce basically be an emissary,

523
00:24:04.356 --> 00:24:06.866
for, an unsanctioned emissary at that,

524
00:24:08.086 --> 00:24:11.056
for Rhaenyra, and pulling

525
00:24:11.676 --> 00:24:14.446
this. Pulling this off. and

526
00:24:16.746 --> 00:24:18.686
it was a good use of

527
00:24:19.266 --> 00:24:22.246
statesmanship and brinksmanship with.

528
00:24:22.986 --> 00:24:25.706
He didn't, like, have to. It was a good

529
00:24:25.746 --> 00:24:28.698
contrast with his style and Damon's

530
00:24:28.722 --> 00:24:31.006
style, because if Damon had gone over there to, like,

531
00:24:31.636 --> 00:24:34.508
negotiate, he would have used cracksies as a

532
00:24:34.532 --> 00:24:36.936
blunt instrument, whereas I think Jace

533
00:24:37.396 --> 00:24:40.340
implied the, you know, look, I'm here on

534
00:24:40.348 --> 00:24:42.576
a dragon, y'all, but

535
00:24:43.436 --> 00:24:46.316
I can. Let's. Let's. Let's talk. Let's just.

536
00:24:46.356 --> 00:24:49.060
You know, he did it. He was a very skillful negotiator. So I

537
00:24:49.148 --> 00:24:51.732
really liked the way that he played his hand there and.

538
00:24:51.844 --> 00:24:54.566
And was, able to get them to decide with.

539
00:24:54.622 --> 00:24:56.260
With team black.

540
00:24:56.454 --> 00:24:59.400
>> Sarah : Yeah, well, they proved that because we saw Damon on

541
00:24:59.424 --> 00:25:02.296
his dragon blunt force,

542
00:25:02.352 --> 00:25:05.016
and then we. To contrast with what Jace

543
00:25:05.192 --> 00:25:07.768
was doing. and

544
00:25:08.468 --> 00:25:11.044
then he furthers, becomes an

545
00:25:11.076 --> 00:25:13.644
mvp of the episode as

546
00:25:13.756 --> 00:25:16.628
he has a conversation with his mom upon

547
00:25:16.668 --> 00:25:19.636
his return. And they

548
00:25:19.732 --> 00:25:22.700
together come to the conclusion that

549
00:25:22.844 --> 00:25:25.604
they need more dragons, therefore they need more

550
00:25:25.636 --> 00:25:28.230
dragon riders. therefore,

551
00:25:28.414 --> 00:25:31.126
let the hunt begin. To those who fell out of

552
00:25:31.142 --> 00:25:33.798
the bloodline, which we met hugh a few

553
00:25:33.838 --> 00:25:36.630
episodes ago, and you had already pointed out,

554
00:25:36.694 --> 00:25:39.230
like, there's a potential of him becoming a future

555
00:25:39.294 --> 00:25:42.190
dragon rider. So we're going to see him again, along

556
00:25:42.254 --> 00:25:45.206
with potentially a few others, because they have at

557
00:25:45.222 --> 00:25:48.078
least two dragons that are large enough

558
00:25:48.118 --> 00:25:50.728
to take on the, veigar,

559
00:25:51.428 --> 00:25:54.196
who have yet to been

560
00:25:54.252 --> 00:25:57.228
claimed, so to speak. So I thought.

561
00:25:57.348 --> 00:26:00.244
I really liked the way that whole conversation

562
00:26:00.356 --> 00:26:02.612
went from, like, kind of

563
00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:05.524
arguing to understanding

564
00:26:05.676 --> 00:26:08.188
to let's look at this a different

565
00:26:08.228 --> 00:26:09.058
way. Yeah.

566
00:26:10.728 --> 00:26:12.920
and just to point out

567
00:26:13.064 --> 00:26:15.754
Rhaenyra, like her father

568
00:26:15.866 --> 00:26:18.842
going to the histories, which we saw Allison

569
00:26:18.930 --> 00:26:21.266
attempt to do the previous episode.

570
00:26:21.402 --> 00:26:23.798
So Viserys still lives on.

571
00:26:24.098 --> 00:26:26.442
>> Will: He does. He does. His counsel lives on.

572
00:26:26.570 --> 00:26:28.638
I have. I have like

573
00:26:29.618 --> 00:26:31.874
mixed feelings about

574
00:26:32.066 --> 00:26:34.954
Jace's solution because I was on the one and

575
00:26:35.026 --> 00:26:37.610
I, and I, and I. And, I will tie this to

576
00:26:37.794 --> 00:26:40.714
what we saw, what the greens did, because on the one hand, yes,

577
00:26:40.746 --> 00:26:43.594
it's a brilliant idea. And one of the things I really liked about

578
00:26:43.626 --> 00:26:46.144
this episode, too, that I hadn't really noticed

579
00:26:46.176 --> 00:26:48.976
before, but in dragonstone there

580
00:26:48.992 --> 00:26:51.896
was always the faint sounds of the dragons in the back just to

581
00:26:51.912 --> 00:26:54.584
like remind you that, you know, we have an arsenal

582
00:26:54.696 --> 00:26:57.542
of dragons here. and then whenever he does

583
00:26:57.590 --> 00:26:59.968
come up with the, With the plan

584
00:27:00.708 --> 00:27:03.152
to you know, to have

585
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.040
the bastard Targaryens that are

586
00:27:06.064 --> 00:27:08.872
out there be their potential riders, I thought that was a great

587
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.228
tie in. Of course, you know, we've been,

588
00:27:11.948 --> 00:27:14.764
and of course with Corlys becoming a hand and

589
00:27:14.836 --> 00:27:17.488
then. And all the things going with Allen

590
00:27:17.788 --> 00:27:20.764
and Bernice last week, just like

591
00:27:20.796 --> 00:27:23.652
making. Having Corlys, you know, she basically

592
00:27:23.700 --> 00:27:26.660
forgave him for having the affair and having the bastard child out

593
00:27:26.684 --> 00:27:29.564
there. So now, you know, they've been having that back

594
00:27:29.596 --> 00:27:31.964
and forth throughout the season about

595
00:27:32.156 --> 00:27:35.156
Allen saving Corlys and. And

596
00:27:35.212 --> 00:27:38.116
also. So that's another potential writer because he

597
00:27:38.132 --> 00:27:40.968
is, you know, I guess he even, you know, he's

598
00:27:41.128 --> 00:27:44.056
Valyrian at least. So I guess they

599
00:27:44.072 --> 00:27:46.360
can also be dragon Riders. So,

600
00:27:46.504 --> 00:27:49.352
yeah, I thought that was a good. All good tie ins

601
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.268
there. But where.

602
00:27:52.008 --> 00:27:53.348
Yeah. Yeah.

603
00:27:53.968 --> 00:27:55.320
>> Sarah : How do we know that?

604
00:27:55.454 --> 00:27:58.298
>> Will: They have. I guess the high. Because they speak High Valyrian.

605
00:27:59.238 --> 00:28:01.246
>> Sarah : Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they're.

606
00:28:01.302 --> 00:28:04.214
>> Will: And they do have. Yeah, I think

607
00:28:04.246 --> 00:28:04.818
they.

608
00:28:05.488 --> 00:28:08.352
>> Sarah : I'm confused. That doesn't mean

609
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.148
like they speak high. High Valyrian.

610
00:28:11.928 --> 00:28:13.352
Anyway, go ahead.

611
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:16.430
>> Will: No, I think. Yeah, I think. I think they can, and I might

612
00:28:16.454 --> 00:28:19.286
be wrong, and if I am listeners, correct me again. I

613
00:28:19.302 --> 00:28:22.164
don't. But I thought that they could also be potential dragon

614
00:28:22.196 --> 00:28:24.648
writers because they have drop of

615
00:28:25.068 --> 00:28:27.636
the dragon's blood. You

616
00:28:27.652 --> 00:28:30.332
know, whatever gene. Whatever it is

617
00:28:30.380 --> 00:28:33.070
that makes Targaryens, I think they could

618
00:28:33.094 --> 00:28:35.542
also have it as well. But

619
00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:38.510
the other point I was thinking of with Jason, the short term I think

620
00:28:38.534 --> 00:28:41.334
that's good, but in the long term I think it gets

621
00:28:41.366 --> 00:28:44.126
to a potential miscalculation

622
00:28:44.262 --> 00:28:46.998
that Christian Cole and

623
00:28:47.158 --> 00:28:49.854
Hightower had when they were marching

624
00:28:50.046 --> 00:28:53.018
melee's down the. Down the street

625
00:28:53.438 --> 00:28:55.498
and that it takes

626
00:28:56.438 --> 00:28:59.436
wherever. Think about the line where the

627
00:28:59.452 --> 00:29:02.356
kid was like, I felt dragons were gods, and the guy was like, God, just me.

628
00:29:02.412 --> 00:29:05.148
And to that point, to me,

629
00:29:05.188 --> 00:29:08.188
is the, I guess, taking away

630
00:29:08.228 --> 00:29:11.204
the luster of what's special about

631
00:29:11.236 --> 00:29:13.888
the Targaryens, in that

632
00:29:15.068 --> 00:29:17.940
it normalizes them to the sense that anybody

633
00:29:17.964 --> 00:29:20.938
could be a dragon rider. and

634
00:29:21.018 --> 00:29:23.560
just how the whole parading

635
00:29:23.584 --> 00:29:25.952
melees down the street makes fix

636
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.792
the invincibility away

637
00:29:28.840 --> 00:29:30.148
from. From the dragons.

638
00:29:35.568 --> 00:29:37.548
>> Sarah : And that's why you don't like the plan.

639
00:29:38.128 --> 00:29:40.468
>> Will: Well, I just think it's up to you.

640
00:29:42.168 --> 00:29:45.028
It's a good plan. It's a good plan, but, in the short term, it's a

641
00:29:45.044 --> 00:29:47.520
good plan, but in the long term, I just wonder, like,

642
00:29:48.110 --> 00:29:50.970
you know, if we're trying. If

643
00:29:51.630 --> 00:29:54.526
the goal of Targaryens is

644
00:29:54.558 --> 00:29:57.334
to be this mystical, special family

645
00:29:57.422 --> 00:30:00.170
that only has a special connection with dragons. And now

646
00:30:00.830 --> 00:30:03.670
you're letting, not pure Targaryens

647
00:30:04.450 --> 00:30:05.402
fly them.

648
00:30:05.546 --> 00:30:07.618
>> Sarah : Well, James isn't a pure Targaryen.

649
00:30:07.674 --> 00:30:09.230
>> Will: Well, and that's the point. I mean,

650
00:30:10.050 --> 00:30:12.834
which I think back to a men in the season,

651
00:30:12.962 --> 00:30:14.910
season one, where he was like, such a strong.

652
00:30:15.850 --> 00:30:18.350
All these strong boys here, you know, so.

653
00:30:19.850 --> 00:30:20.590
>> Sarah : So,

654
00:30:22.840 --> 00:30:25.720
you're saying that it would be better

655
00:30:25.760 --> 00:30:27.780
if it was only pure Targaryens.

656
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.020
>> Will: For the appearance of the

657
00:30:32.760 --> 00:30:35.704
reality of Targaryens and even, you

658
00:30:35.712 --> 00:30:38.536
know, why. And that's part of the reason why they intermarry so much, just

659
00:30:38.568 --> 00:30:41.428
because they want to have that pure Targaryen line.

660
00:30:41.544 --> 00:30:43.000
>> Sarah : Right, right, right.

661
00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:45.952
>> Will: that's what I'm not saying. I mean, I'm just. I'm just putting that out there as a

662
00:30:45.976 --> 00:30:48.496
thought. I'm not saying that's as a

663
00:30:48.528 --> 00:30:51.112
potential downside of Jason's plan.

664
00:30:51.296 --> 00:30:53.240
I'm not saying that's what I believe, but I think it's.

665
00:30:53.280 --> 00:30:55.576
>> Sarah : It could be more of a criticism of his plan.

666
00:30:55.648 --> 00:30:58.000
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what we do here.

667
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.912
>> Sarah : Yeah. No, no, no, you're. You're right. I just am

668
00:31:00.976 --> 00:31:03.720
thrown off by it. I wasn't expecting that. And I was

669
00:31:03.760 --> 00:31:06.440
like, I don't. I don't really know. But,

670
00:31:06.856 --> 00:31:09.690
Okay, so. So

671
00:31:09.730 --> 00:31:11.466
is that it for team black?

672
00:31:11.658 --> 00:31:14.602
>> Will: Yeah, I think. Yeah, yeah. I mean. I mean, I know there was baila with

673
00:31:14.626 --> 00:31:17.008
the, Whenever she was up in the. In the mountains with the

674
00:31:17.024 --> 00:31:17.700
hills.

675
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.136
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. She was at eerie. She had

676
00:31:21.168 --> 00:31:22.020
one scene.

677
00:31:22.320 --> 00:31:25.112
>> Will: Yeah, one scene. They're like, funny. She's

678
00:31:25.136 --> 00:31:27.860
like, you know, I wanted dragons. Like you got dragons.

679
00:31:28.360 --> 00:31:30.216
You didn't tell me what size you wanted.

680
00:31:30.408 --> 00:31:33.180
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And we still have to cover the boys,

681
00:31:34.350 --> 00:31:36.210
team green. So,

682
00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:39.820
Sarah Christian, I'm just going to start off with him

683
00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:42.700
because he is,

684
00:31:42.780 --> 00:31:45.460
like, the most frustrating character

685
00:31:45.540 --> 00:31:48.428
I'm watching on tv right now. Because at

686
00:31:48.444 --> 00:31:51.300
the start of this episode, complete idiot doesn't

687
00:31:51.340 --> 00:31:54.324
understand why people are upset that they

688
00:31:54.372 --> 00:31:57.068
won and are parading around a dragon head

689
00:31:57.204 --> 00:32:00.076
in King's Landing. But then by the end of the

690
00:32:00.108 --> 00:32:03.068
episode, when he's talking about, talking to

691
00:32:03.084 --> 00:32:05.732
Alison about why he did not support

692
00:32:05.836 --> 00:32:08.812
her trying to become the regent

693
00:32:08.916 --> 00:32:11.820
in Agon stead, he makes

694
00:32:11.860 --> 00:32:14.740
an excellent point. Like, it's like, dude,

695
00:32:14.780 --> 00:32:17.746
you, you actually did understand something out of all of

696
00:32:17.778 --> 00:32:20.778
this that. Yes. Even

697
00:32:20.834 --> 00:32:23.650
though he knows what Aemond did,

698
00:32:23.810 --> 00:32:26.442
it doesn't matter. Aemond is a

699
00:32:26.506 --> 00:32:29.370
dragon writer, and he, controls

700
00:32:29.450 --> 00:32:31.390
their largest dragon

701
00:32:31.770 --> 00:32:34.514
and is a very tactical

702
00:32:34.682 --> 00:32:37.618
military person. So that's who

703
00:32:37.634 --> 00:32:40.210
you want in charge right now. Yeah, I'm

704
00:32:40.250 --> 00:32:42.516
sorry. Yeah. you were not.

705
00:32:42.936 --> 00:32:45.356
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. And. And. And

706
00:32:45.776 --> 00:32:48.376
Lara's, you know, the snake that he is

707
00:32:48.416 --> 00:32:51.240
makes the good point, too, in the council there, where,

708
00:32:51.368 --> 00:32:54.116
I mean, it does undermine the whole reason why they're like,

709
00:32:54.216 --> 00:32:56.980
wait a minute, if we put you in charge, then

710
00:32:57.108 --> 00:32:58.376
why are we fighting?

711
00:33:00.436 --> 00:33:03.284
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. He, If

712
00:33:03.300 --> 00:33:05.908
he. If they put Allison in charge, Alice in charge.

713
00:33:05.932 --> 00:33:08.692
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

714
00:33:08.804 --> 00:33:11.452
And they were like, strong was like,

715
00:33:11.484 --> 00:33:14.228
no, I mean, that's. That this undermines our whole cause

716
00:33:14.252 --> 00:33:14.868
here.

717
00:33:15.052 --> 00:33:17.620
>> Sarah : Yeah. What are. What are some of your takeaways about team

718
00:33:17.668 --> 00:33:18.296
green?

719
00:33:18.726 --> 00:33:21.446
>> Will: Yeah, I mean, those were. Those were obviously the

720
00:33:21.486 --> 00:33:23.998
two. Of course, it touched on the miscalculation

721
00:33:24.102 --> 00:33:26.356
that Cole, had in parading

722
00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:29.044
the dragon head down the street.

723
00:33:29.124 --> 00:33:31.586
And, how that can really,

724
00:33:31.604 --> 00:33:34.476
undermines that, the mystique of the

725
00:33:34.492 --> 00:33:37.330
dragons and, which I think

726
00:33:37.354 --> 00:33:39.918
it could also come into play as far as,

727
00:33:42.278 --> 00:33:44.590
Also the other miscalculation that

728
00:33:44.694 --> 00:33:47.667
Eamondhe has in locking down the city.

729
00:33:47.678 --> 00:33:50.655
and not. And, because people are so desperate, you

730
00:33:50.671 --> 00:33:53.535
know, the place was already blockade from

731
00:33:53.551 --> 00:33:56.351
getting additional supplies and stuff at the beginning of the war effort.

732
00:33:56.399 --> 00:33:59.111
And, you know, that was one thing at least, you know, Aegon

733
00:33:59.159 --> 00:34:02.119
had. He had his faults and flaws,

734
00:34:02.223 --> 00:34:04.347
but I think he did recognize,

735
00:34:04.687 --> 00:34:07.687
which Amund and Cole and

736
00:34:07.727 --> 00:34:10.638
others do not recognize, is that, you know,

737
00:34:10.718 --> 00:34:13.190
we need to keep the small folk happy

738
00:34:13.374 --> 00:34:16.338
and we need to make sure we provide provision for them.

739
00:34:17.618 --> 00:34:20.578
and so, you know, so that was definitely this,

740
00:34:20.618 --> 00:34:23.098
you know, so you're right.

741
00:34:23.178 --> 00:34:25.834
Amund clearly is a. From a tactical

742
00:34:25.906 --> 00:34:28.618
standpoint, he is the right person to be

743
00:34:28.738 --> 00:34:31.738
the regent, to lead the war effort.

744
00:34:31.898 --> 00:34:34.586
But as far as having the wisdom and

745
00:34:34.682 --> 00:34:37.542
bigger picture of, like, seeing

746
00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:40.258
things from a

747
00:34:40.678 --> 00:34:43.676
360 view. he's not equipped

748
00:34:43.692 --> 00:34:44.488
to do so.

749
00:34:46.508 --> 00:34:48.284
>> Sarah : Right, right.

750
00:34:48.476 --> 00:34:49.276
>> Will: Yeah.

751
00:34:49.452 --> 00:34:50.208
>> Sarah : Yeah.

752
00:34:51.588 --> 00:34:54.276
>> Will: And then, you know, getting back to the council scene and

753
00:34:54.332 --> 00:34:57.284
just one of the things I thought of you

754
00:34:57.436 --> 00:35:00.074
and one of the things, you had mentioned earlier

755
00:35:00.122 --> 00:35:02.860
this season about Alicent and

756
00:35:02.900 --> 00:35:05.500
Rhaenyra not having, ah, scenes

757
00:35:05.540 --> 00:35:08.484
together. But what really struck me with this

758
00:35:08.532 --> 00:35:11.492
episode, too, was the. They were the

759
00:35:11.516 --> 00:35:14.516
true. The two anchors of the story here, and just

760
00:35:14.548 --> 00:35:17.444
sort of how circumstances and people around them

761
00:35:17.492 --> 00:35:20.158
and how their reactions to it, Or

762
00:35:20.294 --> 00:35:22.970
how. How it all unfolded.

763
00:35:23.210 --> 00:35:26.164
you know, we've touched on the sexism and stuff, and we saw

764
00:35:26.292 --> 00:35:29.180
in both. In both chambers as far as how the men

765
00:35:29.220 --> 00:35:32.204
were, but also just the m. One of

766
00:35:32.212 --> 00:35:34.996
the things we talked about in the past, and we saw it again in this

767
00:35:35.028 --> 00:35:37.588
episode is their. Their approach as. As mothers.

768
00:35:37.724 --> 00:35:39.600
And. And,

769
00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:43.700
you know, when Alice said was there with Aegon

770
00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:46.772
in the. In the chamber at the end there trying to

771
00:35:46.796 --> 00:35:49.438
comfort him, it

772
00:35:49.454 --> 00:35:51.570
was, you know, she. She

773
00:35:52.150 --> 00:35:55.030
versus Rhaenyra and her

774
00:35:55.190 --> 00:35:56.970
dealing with her kids and

775
00:35:58.610 --> 00:36:00.830
approach with, like, whenever Jace

776
00:36:02.010 --> 00:36:04.070
gave her the good advice and stuff,

777
00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:07.536
Well, versus Alicent,

778
00:36:07.568 --> 00:36:10.472
didn't, you know, she just called Aegon an

779
00:36:10.496 --> 00:36:11.420
idiot loser?

780
00:36:12.750 --> 00:36:15.486
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Something that people have

781
00:36:15.518 --> 00:36:18.358
pointed out is. Or posed a question

782
00:36:18.454 --> 00:36:20.330
of does Alison hate her children?

783
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.660
And. And I think that.

784
00:36:25.160 --> 00:36:28.088
I don't know if there's hate because

785
00:36:28.184 --> 00:36:30.848
she definitely cares for them,

786
00:36:31.024 --> 00:36:33.856
but there is some despisement

787
00:36:34.008 --> 00:36:36.864
and there's. There's also

788
00:36:37.032 --> 00:36:39.904
just. Have I created a monster?

789
00:36:40.072 --> 00:36:40.632
>> Will: Yeah.

790
00:36:40.736 --> 00:36:43.672
>> Sarah : And. And their actions. I think

791
00:36:43.696 --> 00:36:45.264
it's more about the actions,

792
00:36:46.292 --> 00:36:49.036
where. That they've pursued and who they've

793
00:36:49.084 --> 00:36:51.932
become. Like, I know that there's

794
00:36:51.972 --> 00:36:54.932
a maternal love there and bond. I mean, she

795
00:36:54.972 --> 00:36:56.632
wanted to take out

796
00:36:57.492 --> 00:37:00.132
Luke's eye when. When she found out about

797
00:37:00.172 --> 00:37:02.978
aemond. she. She's had a lot of

798
00:37:03.026 --> 00:37:05.922
protection and she. She's the one who

799
00:37:05.978 --> 00:37:08.334
put Aegon on the. On the throne.

800
00:37:08.814 --> 00:37:11.350
but since then and everything that has

801
00:37:11.382 --> 00:37:14.110
transpired, there's a lot of guilt

802
00:37:14.262 --> 00:37:16.558
and there's a lot of shame. And

803
00:37:16.606 --> 00:37:19.166
also, every single time one of her

804
00:37:19.190 --> 00:37:21.554
boys fucks up, she's like,

805
00:37:22.134 --> 00:37:24.994
I fucked up as mom, I fucked up as a queen.

806
00:37:27.574 --> 00:37:30.158
So there's a lot there

807
00:37:30.246 --> 00:37:33.110
where Rhaenyra doesn't

808
00:37:33.262 --> 00:37:35.870
have that. That much.

809
00:37:35.942 --> 00:37:38.176
Wherever she.

810
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.200
She's grieved. Well, she's

811
00:37:41.232 --> 00:37:44.070
still grieving Luke, probably. we don't see that

812
00:37:44.102 --> 00:37:46.486
as much. We haven't really seen that since the first

813
00:37:46.550 --> 00:37:49.406
episode. But I don't

814
00:37:49.430 --> 00:37:51.474
know. There's not as much

815
00:37:52.254 --> 00:37:54.934
regret when it comes to Narra. And her

816
00:37:54.974 --> 00:37:57.736
children. So, Yeah,

817
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.808
but. All right, well, that

818
00:38:00.856 --> 00:38:03.752
is it for House of dragon.

819
00:38:03.848 --> 00:38:06.238
Let's move on to talk the boys.

820
00:38:06.326 --> 00:38:08.394
Episode seven, the insider

821
00:38:08.734 --> 00:38:11.126
with Ryan and Vought

822
00:38:11.190 --> 00:38:13.350
Studios Christmas special,

823
00:38:13.462 --> 00:38:16.366
Avenue v. Telling people to report on

824
00:38:16.390 --> 00:38:19.126
their own parents if they think that supes are

825
00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:19.718
bad.

826
00:38:19.886 --> 00:38:22.790
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, the puppets. The puppets

827
00:38:22.822 --> 00:38:25.726
that we first saw in Doom Patrol and we saw Jim v.

828
00:38:25.790 --> 00:38:27.634
And now the boys have returned.

829
00:38:29.254 --> 00:38:31.144
Yeah, but, Yeah, but,

830
00:38:31.944 --> 00:38:34.744
I know the whole

831
00:38:34.784 --> 00:38:37.656
song. I mean, again, we've talked about the

832
00:38:37.680 --> 00:38:40.672
boys and how they. How on the nose

833
00:38:40.728 --> 00:38:43.552
they are this season, and they were, like, really, really on the

834
00:38:43.568 --> 00:38:46.552
news with the start of this episode, with the whole see something,

835
00:38:46.608 --> 00:38:49.472
say something. But, the

836
00:38:49.496 --> 00:38:52.136
thing that I liked about the

837
00:38:52.168 --> 00:38:54.620
opening was we really

838
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.520
started, we saw some of Ryan's

839
00:38:58.560 --> 00:39:01.330
discomfort, as

840
00:39:01.410 --> 00:39:04.178
that all was going on and, you know, which, you know,

841
00:39:04.234 --> 00:39:07.218
definitely get to pay off later, later in an episode from

842
00:39:07.274 --> 00:39:09.450
that, you know, all with

843
00:39:10.310 --> 00:39:12.742
those elements of Becca that

844
00:39:12.846 --> 00:39:14.720
Homelander has not been able to,

845
00:39:15.550 --> 00:39:18.270
exercise get out of him.

846
00:39:18.430 --> 00:39:20.130
So that was

847
00:39:20.990 --> 00:39:23.758
really the thing that really stood out with me with that

848
00:39:23.894 --> 00:39:25.696
whole sequence there at the beginning.

849
00:39:25.878 --> 00:39:28.828
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. He. Ryan just basically

850
00:39:28.924 --> 00:39:31.762
reminded, homelander on national television

851
00:39:31.826 --> 00:39:34.322
that he actually grew up with a

852
00:39:34.346 --> 00:39:34.910
mom.

853
00:39:35.690 --> 00:39:36.470
>> Will: Yep.

854
00:39:37.570 --> 00:39:39.190
>> Sarah : Unlike Homelander.

855
00:39:39.850 --> 00:39:42.490
So he got a break so he can suck

856
00:39:42.530 --> 00:39:45.416
on, firecrackers tits all he want. He

857
00:39:45.448 --> 00:39:48.376
still doesn't have a mommy. Never has

858
00:39:48.408 --> 00:39:50.580
ever experienced motherly love.

859
00:39:51.910 --> 00:39:54.638
Yeah, I just. I liked

860
00:39:54.734 --> 00:39:57.726
the song. And then, like, the

861
00:39:57.758 --> 00:40:00.726
third line, they brought up a groomer, and I'm like,

862
00:40:00.758 --> 00:40:02.134
whoa, wait a second.

863
00:40:02.302 --> 00:40:06.982
What's

864
00:40:07.006 --> 00:40:09.774
that? Like a typo? I don't think they know what they're saying

865
00:40:09.862 --> 00:40:12.574
because we're talking about something very different than

866
00:40:12.662 --> 00:40:15.158
just people who don't like soups. But whatever,

867
00:40:15.294 --> 00:40:18.080
whatever. See something, say something.

868
00:40:18.660 --> 00:40:21.076
And Ryan certainly did, which I was glad

869
00:40:21.148 --> 00:40:23.764
because, we. We.

870
00:40:23.892 --> 00:40:26.884
They've been doing a good job utilizing Ryan

871
00:40:26.932 --> 00:40:29.080
and not being too much,

872
00:40:29.790 --> 00:40:32.050
and just enough. And then we also,

873
00:40:33.850 --> 00:40:36.730
as it aired, butcher got to

874
00:40:36.770 --> 00:40:39.636
see it, which proved his point to

875
00:40:39.668 --> 00:40:42.570
Kessler, that Ryan is

876
00:40:42.650 --> 00:40:45.570
worth saving despite Homelander's

877
00:40:45.610 --> 00:40:48.258
innocence. Granted, he then

878
00:40:48.314 --> 00:40:51.298
faints, so we'll see Kessler's very

879
00:40:51.354 --> 00:40:54.056
happy. But, you know, now that we know

880
00:40:54.088 --> 00:40:55.460
Kessler isn't real

881
00:40:58.080 --> 00:41:00.768
and now that

882
00:41:00.864 --> 00:41:03.736
this is happening, I just. I

883
00:41:03.768 --> 00:41:04.620
feel like

884
00:41:06.290 --> 00:41:09.194
why I've been so anti

885
00:41:09.322 --> 00:41:11.530
the boys side of these

886
00:41:11.610 --> 00:41:14.138
episodes is butcher is so

887
00:41:14.194 --> 00:41:15.138
removed.

888
00:41:15.314 --> 00:41:15.762
>> Will: Yeah.

889
00:41:15.826 --> 00:41:18.266
>> Sarah : And is on this own thing, and it

890
00:41:18.298 --> 00:41:21.266
just, It's annoying. It

891
00:41:21.298 --> 00:41:23.770
just. I mean, this episode, it's a very good

892
00:41:23.810 --> 00:41:26.710
penultimate episode. It brings a lot of things together.

893
00:41:27.250 --> 00:41:29.914
You. It's clear. Final

894
00:41:30.002 --> 00:41:32.536
episode setup, very well done.

895
00:41:32.688 --> 00:41:35.496
Doesn't give too much, but it also

896
00:41:35.648 --> 00:41:37.780
sets the stage for the finale.

897
00:41:38.240 --> 00:41:40.728
Really executed well. At the same

898
00:41:40.784 --> 00:41:43.312
time, like, I could fast forward through

899
00:41:43.376 --> 00:41:46.304
every butcher Kessler scene and still

900
00:41:46.352 --> 00:41:47.660
know what was going on.

901
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:50.456
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we.

902
00:41:50.488 --> 00:41:53.440
Yeah. Once we. You're right. I mean,

903
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.140
I think that where. Where

904
00:41:56.810 --> 00:41:59.162
did pay off, though, with

905
00:41:59.186 --> 00:42:01.714
Butcher. And to your point about him being

906
00:42:01.762 --> 00:42:04.714
removed, was following up on

907
00:42:04.762 --> 00:42:07.402
MM's, panic attack from last

908
00:42:07.466 --> 00:42:10.120
week's episode to, you know, to bring, a

909
00:42:10.152 --> 00:42:12.960
butcher back into the boys and

910
00:42:13.032 --> 00:42:15.376
being the leader, because despite

911
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.096
everything, he. He is the. He is the

912
00:42:18.120 --> 00:42:20.124
appropriate person who should be leaving this group.

913
00:42:21.864 --> 00:42:24.744
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah, he. It's his

914
00:42:24.824 --> 00:42:27.566
group. And I. I find it funny

915
00:42:27.630 --> 00:42:30.470
that they put mother's milk in

916
00:42:30.502 --> 00:42:33.462
charge and then he just faints and

917
00:42:33.478 --> 00:42:34.794
sentence like, I'm out.

918
00:42:37.374 --> 00:42:39.582
And trust me, as somebody who has

919
00:42:39.638 --> 00:42:42.590
anxiety and Has had a few anxiety attacks,

920
00:42:42.622 --> 00:42:45.470
like, I get it. But at the same time, the

921
00:42:45.502 --> 00:42:48.414
way that it is edited in the season and plays out,

922
00:42:48.454 --> 00:42:51.278
it's still kind of like, really, really, you know,

923
00:42:51.366 --> 00:42:54.298
that. Let's

924
00:42:54.346 --> 00:42:57.074
rewind a few episodes when you were just telling

925
00:42:57.114 --> 00:42:59.922
Butcher to shut the fuck up and that he is out of his mind

926
00:42:59.978 --> 00:43:02.094
crazy. Let's just rewind that.

927
00:43:02.594 --> 00:43:05.514
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Well, it's, you know, I know. I,

928
00:43:05.464 --> 00:43:08.360
actually heard Lonzo Lanza, who plays mother's milk.

929
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.292
M he. I was watching the. I, was watching

930
00:43:11.316 --> 00:43:14.082
a review with the, midnight voice on

931
00:43:14.106 --> 00:43:16.818
Ringer, and so Van Latham is

932
00:43:16.914 --> 00:43:19.914
friends with lies, and so lies, like, they called him, actually

933
00:43:19.962 --> 00:43:22.850
turned the podcast, like, hey, I,

934
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.678
you know, they're talking about mother's milk, and, you know, and one of the things they

935
00:43:25.702 --> 00:43:27.816
talked about was, his

936
00:43:28.156 --> 00:43:30.588
clear weight loss this season.

937
00:43:30.732 --> 00:43:33.704
And, part of that, you know,

938
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.648
part of the thing, was, I think it

939
00:43:36.672 --> 00:43:39.352
was a decision that I think lies and Eric Kripke,

940
00:43:39.424 --> 00:43:42.288
like, with the weight loss, was, like, just showing how

941
00:43:42.392 --> 00:43:45.288
him. It was a physical manifestation of,

942
00:43:45.312 --> 00:43:48.252
like, him being the leader of the boys this year.

943
00:43:48.384 --> 00:43:50.736
So that's why they worked. They worked

944
00:43:51.236 --> 00:43:53.736
the physical changes into the show

945
00:43:54.436 --> 00:43:57.348
directly to show that that's

946
00:43:57.372 --> 00:43:57.976
cool.

947
00:44:00.436 --> 00:44:03.222
>> Sarah : What we also got going on is, the

948
00:44:03.254 --> 00:44:05.702
continuation of Samir, and we

949
00:44:05.734 --> 00:44:08.542
finally get a reason for Frenchie to be in an

950
00:44:08.574 --> 00:44:11.256
episode as, Butcher's first

951
00:44:11.336 --> 00:44:13.926
call of action is getting Frenchie out of

952
00:44:14.016 --> 00:44:16.406
jail randomly.

953
00:44:17.746 --> 00:44:20.218
He's in, he's out. He's in, he's out.

954
00:44:20.402 --> 00:44:23.306
And immediately putting him in charge of

955
00:44:23.346 --> 00:44:25.618
helping Samir replicate the

956
00:44:25.642 --> 00:44:28.608
virus. so that they can use it on

957
00:44:28.712 --> 00:44:30.636
Homelander and the VP.

958
00:44:31.576 --> 00:44:33.996
Well, and,

959
00:44:34.456 --> 00:44:37.156
you know, it's funny, like,

960
00:44:37.616 --> 00:44:40.128
Frenchie works when he's with

961
00:44:40.192 --> 00:44:41.156
Kimiko.

962
00:44:41.816 --> 00:44:42.376
>> Will: Yeah.

963
00:44:42.456 --> 00:44:45.448
>> Sarah : And he can't really dominate an episode. He

964
00:44:45.472 --> 00:44:48.312
just has to be in it just enough because

965
00:44:48.504 --> 00:44:51.360
both of them. And honestly, Kimiko, too, both

966
00:44:51.408 --> 00:44:54.368
of them have a very good moment. And

967
00:44:54.392 --> 00:44:57.384
it kind of ties into what they've each been dealing

968
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.088
with very annoyingly this season,

969
00:45:00.272 --> 00:45:03.136
like, her own guilt for when she

970
00:45:03.176 --> 00:45:06.160
was being brought up and killing

971
00:45:06.248 --> 00:45:09.112
other girls, his

972
00:45:09.144 --> 00:45:12.000
first survival and then him and his

973
00:45:12.048 --> 00:45:14.968
whole, I murdered these, these families

974
00:45:15.032 --> 00:45:17.768
and innocent blood on my heads, blah, blah,

975
00:45:17.792 --> 00:45:20.464
blah. So. So it's them

976
00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:23.392
having. Trying to figure out not just how to

977
00:45:23.424 --> 00:45:25.436
forgive themselves, but just

978
00:45:25.936 --> 00:45:27.196
how to.

979
00:45:28.576 --> 00:45:31.440
Well, or maybe to how to forgive themselves. I

980
00:45:31.448 --> 00:45:32.056
don't really know.

981
00:45:32.096 --> 00:45:34.156
>> Will: But I.

982
00:45:34.846 --> 00:45:37.254
Yeah, forgive themselves, but also, I guess,

983
00:45:37.350 --> 00:45:40.196
reconnect, I guess, too, in the process

984
00:45:40.268 --> 00:45:42.960
of forgiving themselves because I guess they have been estranged

985
00:45:43.300 --> 00:45:45.988
all season because of Frenchie's guilt and Kimiko

986
00:45:46.084 --> 00:45:48.316
dealing with the things that she's been dealing with as far as

987
00:45:48.428 --> 00:45:50.668
whatever stuff in her past.

988
00:45:50.844 --> 00:45:53.836
>> Sarah : Yeah, it was definitely Frenchie. You put that wedge in between them,

989
00:45:53.868 --> 00:45:54.228
though.

990
00:45:54.324 --> 00:45:55.020
>> Will: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

991
00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:57.892
>> Sarah : Clearly, for some reason, I still don't, I'm still not

992
00:45:57.916 --> 00:46:00.692
tracking exactly what happened with them between the seasons,

993
00:46:00.716 --> 00:46:02.110
but whatever.

994
00:46:02.270 --> 00:46:05.046
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't buying it, but I'm glad

995
00:46:05.078 --> 00:46:08.040
they did finally get, they finally closed that, ah,

996
00:46:08.040 --> 00:46:10.678
story arc because to me, that's. And I

997
00:46:10.694 --> 00:46:13.678
think most people would agree, that's why the week is dark in the

998
00:46:13.694 --> 00:46:14.250
season.

999
00:46:14.710 --> 00:46:17.340
>> Sarah : Yeah. And then they, they really close

1000
00:46:17.420 --> 00:46:19.720
it with Sameer

1001
00:46:20.340 --> 00:46:22.240
finishing the virus,

1002
00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:25.644
them being like, okay, you're free to go. Him

1003
00:46:25.692 --> 00:46:27.960
immediately injecting it to Kimiko.

1004
00:46:28.550 --> 00:46:30.820
And, Kimiko another.

1005
00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:34.560
Why always the leg? Like, Samir gets his leg

1006
00:46:34.600 --> 00:46:37.184
chopped off and now Kamiko got hers chopped off.

1007
00:46:37.232 --> 00:46:40.096
Like, what is with this virus? And as

1008
00:46:40.128 --> 00:46:43.120
long as they're stabbed in the leg, you just chop it

1009
00:46:43.160 --> 00:46:43.792
off.

1010
00:46:43.976 --> 00:46:45.100
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

1011
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:48.464
>> Sarah : Like, it's just funny. And I know Samir is not

1012
00:46:48.512 --> 00:46:50.300
technically a soup, but.

1013
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.792
So they had that moment, and

1014
00:46:53.816 --> 00:46:56.308
now with that infected

1015
00:46:56.404 --> 00:46:58.716
leg, Frenchie's going to

1016
00:46:58.748 --> 00:47:01.436
replicate the virus just in

1017
00:47:01.468 --> 00:47:03.440
time for the

1018
00:47:04.500 --> 00:47:06.800
assassination attempt, which

1019
00:47:07.180 --> 00:47:10.092
just weird how, considering what happened

1020
00:47:10.116 --> 00:47:13.116
this weekend for the boy ending with

1021
00:47:13.148 --> 00:47:15.040
an assassination attempt.

1022
00:47:15.540 --> 00:47:16.924
>> Will: Yeah, it hits.

1023
00:47:17.092 --> 00:47:17.100
>> Sarah : Yeah.

1024
00:47:17.696 --> 00:47:20.592
>> Will: this episode, I watched it Friday before

1025
00:47:20.656 --> 00:47:23.544
the events of Saturday, but now afterwards, I

1026
00:47:23.552 --> 00:47:25.940
know we talk pre show. It does hit different.

1027
00:47:27.020 --> 00:47:29.756
Took a little wind out of the cells for me, to be

1028
00:47:29.788 --> 00:47:30.400
honest.

1029
00:47:31.300 --> 00:47:34.284
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, it was

1030
00:47:34.332 --> 00:47:37.010
a lot. but that's not the

1031
00:47:37.050 --> 00:47:39.850
only cliffhanger because the real

1032
00:47:39.930 --> 00:47:42.870
one has to do with Annie. And,

1033
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.736
very, very well played. I did

1034
00:47:46.768 --> 00:47:49.360
not get it. I did not understand or

1035
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.228
foresee this happening. But, at the

1036
00:47:52.244 --> 00:47:55.172
beginning of the episode, we're shown that, or we

1037
00:47:55.196 --> 00:47:57.788
are, we are informed, along with Annie, that

1038
00:47:57.844 --> 00:47:59.756
Huey kept the suit.

1039
00:47:59.948 --> 00:48:00.760
>> Will: Yep.

1040
00:48:01.500 --> 00:48:04.184
>> Sarah : And, that

1041
00:48:04.232 --> 00:48:07.184
scene is very early on in the episode, to the point where

1042
00:48:07.192 --> 00:48:09.980
you almost forget about it. And

1043
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.360
then they are off to, find

1044
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.032
out what sage is doing, and

1045
00:48:16.136 --> 00:48:19.000
they encounter a shake shifter.

1046
00:48:19.340 --> 00:48:22.012
But again, for me at

1047
00:48:22.036 --> 00:48:25.004
least, very forgettable. And

1048
00:48:25.132 --> 00:48:27.996
by the end of the episode, you are,

1049
00:48:28.108 --> 00:48:30.572
you were shown that Annie put on the

1050
00:48:30.596 --> 00:48:33.508
suit. And what is the first thing you do when you

1051
00:48:33.524 --> 00:48:36.156
put on a suit? You immediately have sex with your boyfriend,

1052
00:48:36.348 --> 00:48:39.092
and that's what happens. But then we realized

1053
00:48:39.156 --> 00:48:41.680
that it wasn't Annie, it was the shape

1054
00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:44.790
shifter. And we are shown

1055
00:48:44.830 --> 00:48:47.598
that Annie is locked in a

1056
00:48:47.694 --> 00:48:50.550
what appears to be a dungeon, a well, of some sort,

1057
00:48:50.630 --> 00:48:53.182
a place where

1058
00:48:53.286 --> 00:48:55.702
very potentially cannot escape.

1059
00:48:55.766 --> 00:48:58.046
So, so I,

1060
00:48:58.672 --> 00:49:01.640
like I said, I thought that the way they did that with all the

1061
00:49:01.664 --> 00:49:03.508
scenes, I didn't even,

1062
00:49:04.688 --> 00:49:07.544
I mean, they flash back to what happened because you see

1063
00:49:07.576 --> 00:49:10.328
the dead woman's body who, the shape sister

1064
00:49:10.448 --> 00:49:13.358
pretended to be at the bar, but I didn't

1065
00:49:13.398 --> 00:49:16.230
put that together. They had to physically show me that

1066
00:49:16.294 --> 00:49:19.046
because I was too distracted by Annie and

1067
00:49:19.062 --> 00:49:20.738
Butcher having a scene together.

1068
00:49:21.798 --> 00:49:24.580
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, that, that worked.

1069
00:49:24.644 --> 00:49:27.220
I have to say, they, they got me too, with the whole

1070
00:49:27.244 --> 00:49:29.980
shapeshifter. And, and also not only does the

1071
00:49:30.004 --> 00:49:32.820
first, not only does the shapeshifter, like, you know, take their

1072
00:49:32.844 --> 00:49:35.404
physical characteristics on, but they also, so

1073
00:49:35.436 --> 00:49:38.404
diabolical about it is they also get their memories and stuff too, because

1074
00:49:38.436 --> 00:49:41.238
she knew how to, like, they're going through the safe

1075
00:49:41.318 --> 00:49:43.726
and get the, get the evidence that

1076
00:49:43.782 --> 00:49:46.390
they have against Newman

1077
00:49:46.454 --> 00:49:49.420
and Homelander and stuff. So, which was

1078
00:49:49.444 --> 00:49:52.088
just, yeah, I mean, that was just like,

1079
00:49:53.028 --> 00:49:55.768
yeah, that was. Well, well played. Well played voice.

1080
00:49:56.068 --> 00:49:58.524
>> Sarah : Yeah. And now you're just left to

1081
00:49:58.556 --> 00:50:01.340
wonder, who is the shapeshifter working for?

1082
00:50:01.404 --> 00:50:03.924
Because it is. Was

1083
00:50:03.996 --> 00:50:06.868
homelander in on the shapeshifter because Homelander

1084
00:50:06.908 --> 00:50:08.648
fired sage in the separation.

1085
00:50:09.528 --> 00:50:12.296
>> Sarah : To the cave or to the

1086
00:50:12.312 --> 00:50:12.800
curb.

1087
00:50:12.904 --> 00:50:15.736
>> Will: I can't talk right now to her Salemi

1088
00:50:15.752 --> 00:50:17.668
apartment or missy apartment.

1089
00:50:18.088 --> 00:50:20.748
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, definitely. So

1090
00:50:22.448 --> 00:50:25.320
what are your thoughts about Sage Homelander

1091
00:50:25.344 --> 00:50:26.148
Fallout?

1092
00:50:26.968 --> 00:50:29.768
>> Will: Yeah, that was, so that was one

1093
00:50:29.808 --> 00:50:32.148
where we talked about

1094
00:50:33.178 --> 00:50:35.602
how long that alliance is going to last.

1095
00:50:35.730 --> 00:50:38.680
And, and, you know, how she

1096
00:50:38.704 --> 00:50:41.068
tried to cover it, especially whenever

1097
00:50:41.848 --> 00:50:44.648
she, was just saying that it was her. Was it her misinformation

1098
00:50:44.736 --> 00:50:47.624
or plant or something like that? As far as why

1099
00:50:47.664 --> 00:50:50.560
she didn't tell Homelander or, you know, the

1100
00:50:50.592 --> 00:50:53.480
plan for it, it just. I don't know, something about

1101
00:50:53.512 --> 00:50:55.644
it. This is the smartest person in the world.

1102
00:50:56.274 --> 00:50:59.122
I I don't know. Maybe it was while

1103
00:50:59.178 --> 00:51:02.178
she was partially lobotomized that she just didn't think

1104
00:51:02.226 --> 00:51:03.934
all these angles through,

1105
00:51:04.602 --> 00:51:07.434
to knowing.

1106
00:51:07.474 --> 00:51:10.258
Knowing the type of individual that homelander is,

1107
00:51:10.306 --> 00:51:13.174
especially when she's Scene him, like, you know, laser.

1108
00:51:13.514 --> 00:51:16.010
Laser, an assistant, Down

1109
00:51:16.310 --> 00:51:18.134
whenever it's interesting.

1110
00:51:18.182 --> 00:51:19.398
>> Sarah : He didn't kill her.

1111
00:51:19.574 --> 00:51:20.172
>> Will: Yeah.

1112
00:51:20.286 --> 00:51:22.574
>> Sarah : You know, He didn't kill her, even though

1113
00:51:22.662 --> 00:51:25.654
Firecracker would have been totally on board with that.

1114
00:51:25.822 --> 00:51:28.758
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. Well, he was like, yeah, so

1115
00:51:28.774 --> 00:51:31.650
I guess he still sees some value. I don't know. Yeah.

1116
00:51:32.630 --> 00:51:35.364
>> Sarah : I don't. I don't know why. but I think

1117
00:51:35.452 --> 00:51:38.426
that it's just, It's a. It's

1118
00:51:38.458 --> 00:51:41.030
something to keep in mind that

1119
00:51:41.490 --> 00:51:44.154
everyone else who he falls out with, like,

1120
00:51:44.202 --> 00:51:47.074
they immediately die. not

1121
00:51:47.122 --> 00:51:49.970
her. So even though. So it was more like,

1122
00:51:50.010 --> 00:51:52.590
I'm mad at you, rather than

1123
00:51:52.970 --> 00:51:55.524
you betrayed me. because she hasn't

1124
00:51:55.572 --> 00:51:57.560
yet, but now she.

1125
00:51:59.680 --> 00:52:02.628
>> Will: M. Yeah. Do you think it has something to do with. Because I

1126
00:52:02.644 --> 00:52:05.460
know she was. Whenever she got fired

1127
00:52:05.500 --> 00:52:08.172
and she went up to him and said something to me, if I'm

1128
00:52:08.196 --> 00:52:11.126
paraphrasing here, but, something effective, just one

1129
00:52:11.158 --> 00:52:14.022
person out there who's, you know, more dangerous. I don't know. Do

1130
00:52:14.046 --> 00:52:16.962
you think that that could stop him? Do you

1131
00:52:16.986 --> 00:52:19.030
think that he took that as, like,

1132
00:52:20.530 --> 00:52:23.466
she may have something on him

1133
00:52:23.578 --> 00:52:26.578
or she was thinking about if he was thinking about Ryan or

1134
00:52:26.714 --> 00:52:29.178
soldier boy or. I don't. I don't know. I was just trying to figure

1135
00:52:29.194 --> 00:52:29.750
out.

1136
00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:32.538
>> Sarah : She's the smartest person in the world,

1137
00:52:32.714 --> 00:52:35.146
so she.

1138
00:52:35.258 --> 00:52:38.114
She knows more than. Than

1139
00:52:38.162 --> 00:52:40.914
anyone else about everyone. So it wouldn't

1140
00:52:40.962 --> 00:52:43.786
surprise me if there's something that both of them are

1141
00:52:43.818 --> 00:52:46.614
aware of or that she has figured

1142
00:52:46.662 --> 00:52:49.446
out about the way he works that no one

1143
00:52:49.478 --> 00:52:52.392
else has. So, I don't. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't

1144
00:52:52.416 --> 00:52:55.240
know if it's like she has something on him,

1145
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.128
because, again, he could just kill her.

1146
00:52:58.224 --> 00:53:00.928
Like, yeah, he does with anybody else who has something,

1147
00:53:00.984 --> 00:53:03.560
like. So I don't know if it's

1148
00:53:03.600 --> 00:53:06.032
necessarily that, but it's more of her saying,

1149
00:53:06.096 --> 00:53:08.680
like, oh, you're gonna remove

1150
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.664
me, so now you're gonna take on this other

1151
00:53:11.752 --> 00:53:14.620
thing or this other person who's

1152
00:53:14.660 --> 00:53:17.420
more. More powerful. And who can actually

1153
00:53:17.500 --> 00:53:20.322
stop you, without me.

1154
00:53:20.386 --> 00:53:21.510
Good luck with that.

1155
00:53:24.130 --> 00:53:27.074
So it was more of her trying

1156
00:53:27.122 --> 00:53:30.020
to one up, his firing of her,

1157
00:53:31.080 --> 00:53:34.060
which is immediately. Well,

1158
00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:36.820
it works, but it doesn't work because

1159
00:53:39.390 --> 00:53:42.206
he kind of realizes that Firecracker is good for

1160
00:53:42.238 --> 00:53:45.236
one thing in this episode, too, as she brings in

1161
00:53:45.268 --> 00:53:46.280
Webweaver.

1162
00:53:47.020 --> 00:53:49.556
But what I really want to talk about in terms of

1163
00:53:49.588 --> 00:53:52.472
Sage is, how it

1164
00:53:52.496 --> 00:53:55.208
led to one of the most

1165
00:53:55.264 --> 00:53:57.792
infamous lines in the boys

1166
00:53:57.856 --> 00:54:00.432
history. And it's a quote from a tv

1167
00:54:00.496 --> 00:54:03.472
show. I can't believe. I can't.

1168
00:54:03.616 --> 00:54:06.068
Never was not on my bingo card.

1169
00:54:06.204 --> 00:54:08.932
Sometimes the way you get them is the way you lose them.

1170
00:54:09.036 --> 00:54:11.108
A classic Lisa Vander pump

1171
00:54:11.204 --> 00:54:14.196
quote. Technically not said during season

1172
00:54:14.268 --> 00:54:17.212
ten. Not said during season ten. Just gonna put

1173
00:54:17.236 --> 00:54:19.964
that out there is actually the season before that she said that about

1174
00:54:20.012 --> 00:54:22.564
somebody else. So it was not about

1175
00:54:22.612 --> 00:54:23.440
scandal.

1176
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:27.620
so it's just. It's so

1177
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:30.754
funny that. That the

1178
00:54:30.802 --> 00:54:33.772
deep says that, Well, not the

1179
00:54:33.796 --> 00:54:36.652
deep. The octopus says that as the

1180
00:54:36.676 --> 00:54:39.366
deep and the octopus, are

1181
00:54:39.518 --> 00:54:42.518
breaking up. And. And what

1182
00:54:42.574 --> 00:54:45.342
does the deep do? He kills. He

1183
00:54:45.366 --> 00:54:47.500
kills the bitch. and

1184
00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:50.944
very, very bizarre scene, but what

1185
00:54:51.032 --> 00:54:54.012
we expect nothing less from the deepest, especially when

1186
00:54:54.036 --> 00:54:55.840
it involves his sexuality.

1187
00:54:56.820 --> 00:54:59.492
And so as after Sage gets

1188
00:54:59.516 --> 00:55:02.444
fired, she's leaving and she comes

1189
00:55:02.492 --> 00:55:05.404
across black noir in the deep. And.

1190
00:55:05.532 --> 00:55:07.160
And then the deep

1191
00:55:11.340 --> 00:55:13.760
tries to hit on her. And then

1192
00:55:14.420 --> 00:55:17.412
it's sort of like, I don't know. Will you have

1193
00:55:17.436 --> 00:55:20.026
to tell me? Like, so it's

1194
00:55:20.058 --> 00:55:22.970
implied basically, that black noir was

1195
00:55:23.010 --> 00:55:24.426
also hooking up with.

1196
00:55:24.498 --> 00:55:27.306
>> Will: Oh, yeah. It wasn't applied. It was like. It was flat out.

1197
00:55:27.378 --> 00:55:30.258
It was. It was. Yeah, it was like as soon as I

1198
00:55:30.274 --> 00:55:33.010
saw. Yeah. And. And not only that, but

1199
00:55:33.130 --> 00:55:35.634
she didn't have him lobotomize

1200
00:55:35.682 --> 00:55:36.270
her.

1201
00:55:36.890 --> 00:55:39.466
>> Sarah : Yeah. That was what was implied. Like, what is

1202
00:55:39.498 --> 00:55:42.330
the. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1203
00:55:42.410 --> 00:55:43.070
yeah.

1204
00:55:43.530 --> 00:55:46.190
>> Will: So I was. When I saw Alice, I was

1205
00:55:46.570 --> 00:55:48.990
on the floor with that. That was just like, wow.

1206
00:55:49.130 --> 00:55:49.790
Yeah.

1207
00:55:49.950 --> 00:55:52.886
>> Sarah : It was great. Especially to come off of

1208
00:55:53.038 --> 00:55:55.624
those two showing up at, the boys hideout

1209
00:55:55.752 --> 00:55:58.400
because Homelander is like, we gotta. We gotta

1210
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.048
kill the boys and get rid of

1211
00:56:01.104 --> 00:56:04.080
butcher's team once and for all. Have a

1212
00:56:04.200 --> 00:56:07.168
good action sequence which during with

1213
00:56:07.264 --> 00:56:09.060
a train shows up,

1214
00:56:09.620 --> 00:56:12.420
unfortunately. And his secret

1215
00:56:12.540 --> 00:56:15.472
is now out that the insider is the A

1216
00:56:15.496 --> 00:56:18.280
train. And now another

1217
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:21.080
scene that I need you to give me what your read on

1218
00:56:21.120 --> 00:56:24.096
is. It's the scene between him and Ashley.

1219
00:56:24.248 --> 00:56:27.160
Okay, so the scene

1220
00:56:27.240 --> 00:56:30.072
is that he, after

1221
00:56:30.216 --> 00:56:32.460
the encounter, after basically

1222
00:56:33.200 --> 00:56:35.744
exposing himself to black

1223
00:56:35.792 --> 00:56:38.760
noir and the deep, he runs

1224
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:41.664
back to that tower and tells Ashley,

1225
00:56:41.712 --> 00:56:43.768
the secret's out. We gotta go.

1226
00:56:43.944 --> 00:56:44.680
>> Will: Yeah.

1227
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.832
>> Sarah : What was with the sexual tension that I never

1228
00:56:47.896 --> 00:56:48.500
Scene?

1229
00:56:49.160 --> 00:56:52.096
>> Will: Okay. So I thought it was just me.

1230
00:56:52.248 --> 00:56:52.940
>> Sarah : No.

1231
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:54.192
>> Will: Okay.

1232
00:56:54.336 --> 00:56:56.956
>> Sarah : Weird. It was unweakable. in a weird

1233
00:56:56.988 --> 00:56:57.516
way.

1234
00:56:57.668 --> 00:57:00.196
>> Will: It was. It was. I. There was that

1235
00:57:00.228 --> 00:57:03.196
undercurrent there for sure, and I was just like, this is. This is just

1236
00:57:03.228 --> 00:57:04.800
too. This is just too weird.

1237
00:57:05.260 --> 00:57:08.164
>> Sarah : It's just out of left field. Because they

1238
00:57:08.252 --> 00:57:10.836
never liked each other. They. There has never been

1239
00:57:10.868 --> 00:57:13.226
that. And he. He gets

1240
00:57:13.258 --> 00:57:15.970
exposed. They. Even their. Even their

1241
00:57:16.010 --> 00:57:18.770
alliance. You're. They have one

1242
00:57:18.890 --> 00:57:21.770
moment, one. A few moments, but it's

1243
00:57:21.850 --> 00:57:24.474
never like they're very adversarial.

1244
00:57:24.642 --> 00:57:27.442
Enemy of my enemy is my friend. And

1245
00:57:27.466 --> 00:57:30.130
then this moment felt as though they were

1246
00:57:30.170 --> 00:57:33.010
in a romantic relationship, and he

1247
00:57:33.050 --> 00:57:35.786
went to save her, and she decided to

1248
00:57:35.818 --> 00:57:37.240
stay, and he left.

1249
00:57:37.410 --> 00:57:40.404
>> Will: Like, yeah, but it made enough

1250
00:57:40.452 --> 00:57:42.800
impression that she's like, don't forget to take out the chip.

1251
00:57:43.700 --> 00:57:46.528
>> Sarah : Exactly. thank you. That was another part. I'm, Just like,

1252
00:57:46.560 --> 00:57:49.280
oh. Just. Just added on my confusion

1253
00:57:49.376 --> 00:57:50.692
what is happening.

1254
00:57:50.992 --> 00:57:51.856
>> Will: Yeah. Because I know.

1255
00:57:51.944 --> 00:57:54.664
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I get

1256
00:57:54.808 --> 00:57:56.732
why she said that, because

1257
00:57:57.792 --> 00:58:00.496
regardless, they are clearly friends,

1258
00:58:00.664 --> 00:58:03.144
but. And so he's. She's trying to say,

1259
00:58:03.208 --> 00:58:06.024
like, you leave. I'm gonna try to

1260
00:58:06.048 --> 00:58:09.024
protect you, but this is the only thing I

1261
00:58:09.048 --> 00:58:11.854
can do at this point. but,

1262
00:58:11.998 --> 00:58:14.766
yeah, so I'm glad it was. It was not just

1263
00:58:14.814 --> 00:58:17.446
me who read sexual undertone.

1264
00:58:17.574 --> 00:58:20.402
>> Will: Yeah, I did. I was just like, gross.

1265
00:58:21.062 --> 00:58:24.012
Yeah. It was even, like, even when even. I,

1266
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.536
think what confirmed it for me was, like, even within the

1267
00:58:26.576 --> 00:58:29.510
scene, they both agree. they also had the reaction,

1268
00:58:29.558 --> 00:58:32.248
like, gross, because it was.

1269
00:58:32.272 --> 00:58:35.128
The tension. The sexual tension was there. It was. There's

1270
00:58:35.152 --> 00:58:37.720
no. There's no denying it in a gross way.

1271
00:58:37.808 --> 00:58:40.080
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1272
00:58:42.788 --> 00:58:45.780
>> Sarah : but not as gross as homelander and

1273
00:58:45.844 --> 00:58:48.428
web weaver. So I want to talk

1274
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about.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : Nope. Definitely did not need that.

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anything else about the boys,

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insider penultimate episode?

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>> Will: No, I think we. I mean, other.

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Only other point I will say about deep is he's definitely gone

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full homelander. I mean, he's, you know,

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with taking, them out. And that

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other line that stuck out to me, it's like, I'll kill all the fish in the sea

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for you. I mean, he's all in.

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But, But, yeah, it was. It was a good. Like you said, it was a very good

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penultimate. you know, this season has been on the news,

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with. Withdeze. all the ministries

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always have political overtones and stuff and. And all. But,

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but, I I was for

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penultimates. I was like, okay, this. I was. I was. I can't

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always satisfied with this episode.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I I've been

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kind of on the lower hype

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train of the boys this season, but I will have to

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say, I think this is one of their

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stronger episodes of the season. Season. It was done.

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Very well done. And I think, just as a

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penultimate episode as a whole, I

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appreciate these types of penultimates, where

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I still feel like there's. There's more

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to give in the finale. They haven't wrapped up too

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much, but at the same time, they've brought

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enough together to be like, okay, the

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finale is being set up to be very

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satisfactory. I will still fast forward

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through butcher scenes. If he's just talking to

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himself.

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Not just him talking to himself. I think I brought

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this up last week. It's more that I don't.

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I'm not seeing the growth. I feel like we've been down

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this road with butcher for a few seasons

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now, and I feel like we're just going in circles at this

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point, so. And that's what irritates

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me. I'm all for people talking to imaginary

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friends, like, all. Especially when played

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by a Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Come on.

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>> Will: Yeah, I'll take, I agree with you to a point. I do think

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there is growth in that. The butcher of

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two seasons ago or so would. Would

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not. He would have been like Kessler and would have taken

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Ryan out, whereas now

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he did. We did get that payoff there.

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>> Sarah : maybe. But his true spot is

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Huey.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : all right, on that note, will, why do you tell our listeners where they can

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find you?

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>> Will: Yes, you can find me on X. Follow me

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on twitterillandpolk. W

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>> Sarah : L k. You can find me there, too. At

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