Episode 7 Breakdown: Paradise on Hulu's Penultimate Revelations

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>> Sarah : Greetings nerds. This is Scene a Nerd I'm your host Sarah Belmont and

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with me as always is our Mr. Producer Will Polk How are you doing

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tonight Will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. How are you doing this Thursday evening?

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>> Sarah : I'm doing good. It's the end of February.

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>> Will: It is. This month is like zip by.

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>> Sarah : All right, do you want to start with the Black History

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Month entertainment moment? Last one?

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, last one for this month.

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Hope everyone's been enjoying these features and like I said I try to dig

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a little deeper and just like actors and that kind of

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stuff. So today I have

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a pioneering filmmaker and television

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producer. Her name is Madeline Anderson

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and she is often credited as the first

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black woman to produce and direct a documentary

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film. she was also the first black woman to

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produce and direct the syndicated TV series

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and also the first

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black employee at a New York based public TV station. And

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she was also first the first black woman to join a film

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editors union. And so some of the things that

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folks probably are very familiar with that she had

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a role in was Sesame Street. She was an in

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house producer for ah, Sesame street and the Electric Company on

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the children's show Builder Workshop. And

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the syndicated TV series that she did was was

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a program in the in the 70s called

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the the Infinity Factor and it was

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basically teaching math and science

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to themes show that

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was targeted towards inner city youth.

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And so that was the syndicated

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show that she did. And as far as the documentary,

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the documentary was called Integration Report

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one which she was the producer behind

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that and it was a documentary

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about the planning for the first march on

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Washington in the 1960s. So that was

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the film that she was credited as a director for. And she also

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did another one called I Am Somebody and did some shorts

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tribute to Malcolm X. So drop a link to

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the Smithsonian where you can like read all

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about her. There's a great video about her experiences and stuff

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in their ah cinema, their Cinema plus Conversation

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series as part of the oral history projects at the

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Smithsonian. And I'll drop that in the show notes where folks can

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learn more about her and her work.

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>> Sarah : That's cool. That's very cool.

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Yeah and I, I think it's been, I think it's been

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good with all the spotlights and yeah

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expand like dropping little pizz pieces

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of entertainment history and

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knowledge. I think that's always good.

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>> Will: Yeah for sure. I mean I know, I know in, in doing

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this Weekly, on our. For our show,

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I really did, like I said, try to go little bit

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deeper than, you know, what are the top 10 black films or

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that kind of stuff. You know, I was really trying to, like, learn.

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Learn some new things for myself because I did not know about Madeline

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Anderson prior to doing, our, prep for this week.

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And then also, Yeah. So, you know, so hopefully,

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educate our listeners as well.

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>> Sarah : Can I. Okay. I just have a question about the top 10

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black films.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Is, Love and Basketball anywhere on that

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list?

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>> Will: yeah, it is. Well, I guess it depends if you go by

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genre. so. Yeah,

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so, yeah, well, I tried to make sure it was, like, things

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sort of in our. In our space if.

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But, But, yeah, Love Basketball is one of them, as far as,

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like, I think overall.

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>> Sarah : But I respect that because I adore that

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movie.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, it's arguably one

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of the blackest movies that I'm really

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familiar with. I

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mean, I just. I just adore that movie so

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much. And, Do you want to play

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again? I just.

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I. I own it on DVD and everything. I

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watched it so many times when I was, after it

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came out, so. So I. I think that

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that is a requirement, so I just wanted to make sure.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, it's definitely there. Yeah, I got to check now.

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You know, we have to see if it's, like, in the film registry, because, I mean,

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if it's even eligible. But it might be at this point because it's just,

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you know, been around for several years. But,

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yeah.

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>> Sarah : was it, I think, early 2000s? I

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want to say like 2001? Yeah, because

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because when. When their. Their high school days,

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it was the, like, early 90s

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to mid-90s. So. Yeah. Yeah, that.

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That sounds about right. All right,

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well, to jump onto another one of

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Will's favorite topic that he was gonna ask me

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about during the pre show, but decided not to,

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figured what he would get with my answer.

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And, So the Andor trailer

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dropped earlier this week, and I watched a good

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75% of it. Not because it was

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bad. Not because it was bad.

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Yeah, I just. I

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don't want to know anything.

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>> Will: Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough.

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>> Sarah : I saw. I saw stuff, and I

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was like, that's cool. It looks great. It looks.

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It looks good. Moving on.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I

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mean, it was a definite, definite vibe with the. With

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the, Steve Earl song, you know, the Revolution Starts

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Now. and, I thought it was. I know I

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saw. It's, like, mixed reactions to folks about the,

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you know, the, the

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score that they used in the trailer. Some people really liked it.

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I really liked it. I thought it was a perfect capture. Yeah,

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I thought it was perfectly captured and really, you know, captures. I

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mean that song really is captures.

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the whole thing about the Rebellion,

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which, you know, started out as a local thing and then became

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a. A big. In Star wars

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universe, galactic movement.

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and so, And also

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I thought the visuals, I think it. For folks who've

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watched Andor, you know, that yes

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there was action, but it was really a lot more drama,

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a lot more intense.

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The politics and stuff and the growth,

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obviously the growth of the Empire was really more. You

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know what that first season was. Was all about and

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Andor's, you know, journey as far as

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his coming into getting

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recruited, you know, falling into the Rebellion

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and and all. But, So I thought the trailer was

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just like a lot more like geared to people.

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Geared towards people who, who. Who

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think the traditionally of

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Star wars, like the, you know, laser battles and

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start starships and stuff flying around, that kind of stuff.

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But I, you know, I'm looking forward to it. And, and also just to

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remind folks too that when the episode it

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is, going to be dropped over four weeks. and

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each week it dropped the three

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episodes, you know, for, for

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the Chronicle, I guess a year in Cassian's,

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journey as. As we. As the, you know,

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final, you know, final episode, Rogue

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One. So.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, like that. That's.

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That's also kind of why I stopped watching because it was a reminder

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that Krennic's in this. And I'm like, okay, so they're

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gonna end it very similarly to how Rogue One

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ends.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. It'll get us right to that moment

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where we see. Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : When we first meet Cassian.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : so. But what is. What is

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your take on this three episode a week

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rollout? So it's a. What is it, a five

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week stretch? Four week stretch?

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>> Will: Four week stretch? 12.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And also, can I. Can I just also throw out another

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thing because it's Disney plus they're doing

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this and they're also dropping them all on a Tuesday.

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>> Will: Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

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I believe it is still Tuesday. Yeah.

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So, yeah. As far as the dropping it, you

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know, so when you think about the first season, I mean, they're,

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they're, they're. We're in three episode

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arcs.

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>> Sarah : Oh, yeah. So attracts with that like

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one at a time and it worked out fine.

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>> Will: Yeah, Yeah, I thought so. Too. So yeah,

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I, I, I don't know. I'm, I'm mixed, I have mixed

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feelings about it, to be honest. On the one hand, it's just

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like great because basically I'm like, okay, I just

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need to know that I just need to block out like, you know, basically

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a feature film length block of time to like watch these

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three episodes because if I don't, I'm gonna get

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spoiled. but on the other hand, to your point. Yeah. I

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mean the one episode a week rollout

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was great. So I don't, you know, so

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maybe it's something in the, in their data or metrics

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they were, that is driving them to do it

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because it's clearly a choice.

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>> Sarah : Oh, absolutely. I mean we,

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we just got adjusted to this whole

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let's drop between one to three

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episodes premiere. I mean

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dropped three episodes

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and, and the shorter seasons and you're dropping a

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hunk and it's just that, ah, I just

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wonder where that stems

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from, you know, who thought. And then you

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have Netflix within the last year and a half

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have been doing the whole Part one,

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Part two, Cobra Kai. You get

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three parts. Yeah.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Well, it just, it's it's very,

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I don't know if it has something to do with streaming

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services trying to.

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Because streaming services first found success

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with the binge and, but also

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are not finding sustainability with the

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binge because once you binge it, you

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turn off your subscription and move on. So

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then you're trying to entice with these properties

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that, you know, viewers are going to

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come on board like they, they've already

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started the journey, they might as well finish it, so to

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speak. So it's kind of like this little trail.

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But I'm sure that the, and,

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or especially because what you were saying too about

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how each chunk is one year and

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this is like going into this, we know

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that there's going to be a lot of, it's going to be very fast

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paced in terms of time. So

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I can understand that from a

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story perspective, it's good.

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but it'll, it'll just be interesting to

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cover. yeah.

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>> Will: It definitely will. It definitely will because I know it'll. Oh

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yeah, we'll, we'll have to do figure out our

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scheduling matrices as far as

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with the overlap of and, or

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Last of Us and a little bit of Daredevil

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as well.

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>> Sarah : So I don't think there should be that much

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overlap with Daredevil I was looking at.

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>> Will: Yeah, I think this is, I think it's just one week If I recall.

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Maybe.

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>> Sarah : Well, yeah, but I think there's a way where

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there wouldn't be any. but we can talk about that

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later.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : so. All right, well that leads us

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into the last chunk of news, which leads us into

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our main topic of conversation tonight.

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Paradise Season 2. So

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it's been renewed and as mentioned

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when we first started covering the show by Will,

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the showrunner has already noted that

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season two is in the bag.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : So written. It's just written. It's not been

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filmed.

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>> Will: Right. Yeah, I wish it were, I wish it were film. Cause.

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recall Fogelberg said that they were planning on trying to get

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it out, in 2026. So if, if they

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were, if they were renewed and thankfully they,

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they did get the renewal. And I love the, I know you shared

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with me, Sterling K. Brown's, little

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real.

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>> Will: The hand. Yeah, that was, that was, that was like Chef's kiss. As far as

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just like why this, not only

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why he's just so awesome, but why the show is so awesome.

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>> Sarah : But yeah, yeah, I, I,

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I thought it was good too. And then

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the whole, all of the videos

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yesterday that came out was

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Supernatural and the boys being

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reunited on the Boys for the final

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season. I was just like, oh, they one up,

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watched a fair amount of Supernatural,

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their whole like Jared,

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Jensen and Misha just on the road going

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to all of the Supernatural cons and talking about the

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behind the scenes hijinks, like the stories

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they tell and how they were still

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able to make a show like a

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for 15 years

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is, it's just, it's, it's beyond

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anyone's like.

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>> Will: And still talking and still talking to each other

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especially. Yeah, you know, yeah, it's great.

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>> Sarah : yeah. And their families are so tied. It's

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just, it's so funny. I mean it was with Crypti

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behind the scene, it was only a matter of time. I mean once,

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once Jeffrey Dean Morgan, you got the father

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involved, you're just like, yeah, yeah,

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all of the kids have to come and play. so

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very excited for both season two of ah, paradise

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and the final season of the

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and that just brings us to the penultimate

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episode of Paradise Season 1. The

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Day Sinatra and Xavier confront

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the past and return to the harrowing day that brought

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them to Paradise. but before we

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get there, it starts off on

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October 28th, 1962 with the

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Cuban Missile crisis.

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So here's my thing,

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here's my question. And the little

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thing that just kind of bothered me

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and kind of makes me want to,

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just scan because I swear

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this sound motif

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of the light flickering we've

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heard like since the first episode.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Yes. Okay. Okay. I

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always thought it was a ticking clock.

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>> Will: I did too. You know, I didn't know, it was a sort of

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background atmospherics for me. I did not know if it

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was a ticking clock or what. But you're right. I mean, it's been

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there. It's been there. Yeah. There's like several things

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this episode that as I was, as I

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was watched it twice, but

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several things that just came back into

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focus throughout this episode. and you know,

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we talked about before how there's

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no wasted piece of dialogue or scenery or

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anything in this show. And to your point, that sound

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was definitely not one.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, I just, I really like

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that. And it also took me a while and it

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also. Even at the end of

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the cold open in the past with this

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general who's nameless for us,

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and he just starts turning on and off the switch.

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I was just like, okay, you're going a bit crazy.

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I was like, I don't know. But then the beauty

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is so much happens between

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then and the payoff.

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>> Will: Yes.

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>> Sarah : Completely have. Like you. You don't.

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It's just the seed has been

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planted. The dialogue

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that Cal's the wrong person and he makes the

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wrong choice,

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which. Which is what Xavier believes.

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>> Will: Right.

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>> Sarah : As the story unfolds, we find out

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that no, there was a different switch. And that

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all goes back to the beginning. It is, it is a

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great episode and a great,

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It felt like a mini disaster

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movie.

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>> Will: It did, it did.

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>> Sarah : And down to the horrible,

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like kind of insane

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newscast.

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>> Will: Yeah, it's funny about those newscasts. So I

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was reading the writer of the show of this

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episode mentioned, that they

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actually pre recorded all those newscasts.

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And so when the cast was watching it while

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they were filming, that was their like genuine

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reactions whenever,

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whenever they were watching the. The broadcast,

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on. During. In the. In the. Outside the Oval.

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So you know, they're really trying to get that, you know, that 9,

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11, you know, whatever, you know, whatever disaster feeling that

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people, you know, that really gut react. Action. So yeah, I mean,

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just the level of detail that they went. They put into this,

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into this episode and you know, just, you know, and

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you know, just given the nature of what my m. What I, you know, what

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I. It was really Intense. I watched this episode twice

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and it hits, it just hit. Even though when you know what's coming,

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it still hits just as hard, probably even more so the second go

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around when, when I, whenever I

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was watching it because I mean you should really

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the get into it and just having, not

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only, not obviously not to this global scale of what we

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saw in this episode, but just, just in my own personal

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experience and having, and the type of work

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that I do professionally, being in

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that room with people who are having to

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make decisions like what the president was,

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what Cal and everyone and his advisors,

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you know, it definitely, you know this, this

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episode just resonated with me on just so many

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levels. because, because of the stat intensity and

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just the decisions that were having to be made and,

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and, and the, the dialogue and

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everything about it. So yeah, I mean this was just,

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was, you know, I, I, this one was one.

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After I watched it the first night, I was just, I just sat there

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for just a moment because to your point, it was just the

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disasters and the cascading impacts from the

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disasters, which I thought was really captured pretty. You know

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they, they did a good job of just sort of fleshing

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all that out. And I will get into it more but as a sort of

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opening thoughts of the episode as well.

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>> Sarah : Right. Right. And the,

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I mean it, it comes to light

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fairly quickly that the, it's a

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combination of things because at the beginning of the season

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there was speculation like okay, was it

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missiles or that

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like was it a natural

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disaster? So they, and

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I like how both are true

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because what we learn is that a super

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volcano erupts in the Antarctic and

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that causes a massive tsunami to occur,

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which leads to horrible

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stuff. Simultaneously you

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got a bunch of leaders who are

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looking at land that is off the board

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and then also an opening to

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get their own land and leads

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to a missile crisis again.

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so you have, you have, you have. Though

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I just, I can appreciate that

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it wasn't one or the other, it was

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both. Which makes a lot of sense

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for the very

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complicated

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dynamic that we were

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presented with in the present day between Cal

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and Xavier on Cal's final

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night of life.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : There has to be a better way to say that.

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>> Will: Oh no, no. Yeah. No, I mean it just,

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it painted. You know, we've always wondered, I mean

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we've gotten bits and pieces of

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what, you know, we knew

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that because of that fateful day something

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happened, but then seeing it

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all play out and, and, and you

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know, we get the, we get the Flashback, you know, in prior

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episode of Cal trying to tell

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Xavier it's, you know, not good

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for, you know, tell your wife maybe it's not a good time to go to

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Atlanta. And, and then of course in

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this episode when they're you know,

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when Xavier has the realization that, you

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know, that Cal knew that there was no way that

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she was going to make it.

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and, and just, and just every, you know, and

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in that moment over there on the tarmac where, you know,

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it was no, it was no longer a president, Secret Service

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agent, it was man, father to father, husband

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to husband. And that, and I think that was the other element of that

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was so strong about this episode in

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that, you know, it was the human element of it.

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Yeah, you had all this, all these catastrophes going

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on around the world, but

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it was just, you know, so, but it took the

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big. And then it really brought it,

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beautifully acted and

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executed back

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to this grounded level of like in this

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crazy thing where Kyle is trying to make decisions about

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what's going on, Xavier's trying to get the President

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out. They're still having those human, very human

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moment of us like trying to, you know,

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Xavier, you know, frantically trying to get to Terry,

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the directions as far as how to get out there

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and try to get her to the airport, the Air Force base so she

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can step with them and everything

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and, and, and, and then they're on that

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tarmac and, and Cal's like, look,

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get your head out of your, you know, get your head. You got two kids

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on this plane. You know, there's 8 billion people out here, who would love to

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have your seat. Are you coming with me or not? And just like really

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help trying to pull Xavier back into focus.

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And also just seeing Xavier, who's always

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like, whenever they've had their previous interactions, it's always so,

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you know, so level headed and cool.

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But seeing that passion and pulling that, you know,

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and, and Cal pulling that.

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>> Sarah : Well, it was a different, it was a different,

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to your point, it's, it's not what

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we saw in the previous episode where

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somebody has done him wrong and he wants

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vengeance and so he's going to go a bit

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crazy and put on a show.

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No, it was the other where it was

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hopelessness and I think it was more, that conversation

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is more about Cal also

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self, self servingly trying to say,

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focus on your wins, on those you're able to save.

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Don't focus on the one you were, you had to let

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go and couldn't, and

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we can't hold this up. And I

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think why it worked, is

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because

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you are able to connect the

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microscopic to the

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larger picture so well,

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because you have the speech. Like how throughout this

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entire episode, it's unsettling. It's

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rattling him. The secret

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of the bunker,

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and also this impending

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disaster that has been weighing

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on him. And now that it's finally coming to

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fruition, he's just like.

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And I'm still lying, and I'm

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still telling everyone it's going to be okay.

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My janitor is still cleaning this

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house and

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acting like everything's gonna be fine.

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And I, What surprised

511
00:23:35,122 --> 00:23:37,890
me more, not maybe not surprised, but I think what

512
00:23:37,946 --> 00:23:40,542
stuck out to me also was more about

513
00:23:41,242 --> 00:23:43,986
how Xavier, you're having

514
00:23:44,074 --> 00:23:46,594
to balance the whole. And both of

515
00:23:46,618 --> 00:23:49,426
them are having to balance

516
00:23:49,474 --> 00:23:52,466
that. Yeah. Yeah. You're worried

517
00:23:52,514 --> 00:23:55,430
about your wife, you're worried about your children. The world

518
00:23:55,486 --> 00:23:58,134
is going to shit right now. You still have a job to

519
00:23:58,158 --> 00:23:58,722
do.

520
00:23:59,022 --> 00:23:59,882
>> Will: Yep.

521
00:24:00,462 --> 00:24:03,158
>> Sarah : Still have a job to do. And it. And

522
00:24:03,310 --> 00:24:06,294
I think it was a very. It was a

523
00:24:06,318 --> 00:24:08,482
tight tightrope because

524
00:24:09,342 --> 00:24:12,242
his job is the only reason

525
00:24:12,862 --> 00:24:15,670
why he's able to get him

526
00:24:15,726 --> 00:24:18,502
and his kids, potentially his wife, on

527
00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:19,366
that plane.

528
00:24:19,494 --> 00:24:20,022
>> Will: Yep.

529
00:24:20,102 --> 00:24:22,482
>> Sarah : You know, that's the only reason.

530
00:24:23,262 --> 00:24:26,040
So, to. For. He can't.

531
00:24:26,136 --> 00:24:27,932
He can't abandon ship.

532
00:24:29,312 --> 00:24:32,120
He has to stay the ground. Because he's just

533
00:24:32,176 --> 00:24:35,048
like, I can't lose them all.

534
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,944
This is my. It. I just. I

535
00:24:37,968 --> 00:24:40,882
thought that was very well done. And,

536
00:24:40,832 --> 00:24:43,810
And I just also. I mean,

537
00:24:43,866 --> 00:24:46,022
to your point about the human element,

538
00:24:46,822 --> 00:24:49,430
it's also the, the

539
00:24:49,486 --> 00:24:51,842
turning of the people.

540
00:24:52,422 --> 00:24:55,292
that. That escalation when

541
00:24:55,592 --> 00:24:58,144
suddenly the staff turn

542
00:24:58,248 --> 00:25:01,232
on them. Them. Because they're like,

543
00:25:01,272 --> 00:25:04,160
oh, they can. They're getting out and leaving us

544
00:25:04,216 --> 00:25:07,144
behind. so.

545
00:25:07,328 --> 00:25:10,052
So, yeah, which. Which,

546
00:25:10,642 --> 00:25:12,970
A whole nother thing. I mean, I mean,

547
00:25:13,026 --> 00:25:15,962
selfishly. Selfishly, I

548
00:25:16,002 --> 00:25:18,634
really. I really like this episode because, again, I'm

549
00:25:18,698 --> 00:25:19,302
right.

550
00:25:23,882 --> 00:25:26,338
>> Will: there's a monster. She's a. She's a straight up monster video.

551
00:25:26,410 --> 00:25:27,142
Yeah.

552
00:25:27,562 --> 00:25:30,402
>> Sarah : She's not. Have you watched any movie? Like,

553
00:25:30,442 --> 00:25:31,502
she's not.

554
00:25:32,362 --> 00:25:34,466
>> Will: I was messing with bad things.

555
00:25:34,554 --> 00:25:36,578
>> Sarah : It's just so funny to me.

556
00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:37,462
>> Will: Yeah.

557
00:25:38,362 --> 00:25:41,266
>> Sarah : But. But, yeah. So. So they end up

558
00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:42,662
getting on the plane.

559
00:25:43,962 --> 00:25:45,776
And, right after

560
00:25:45,944 --> 00:25:47,512
Robinson shoots,

561
00:25:49,610 --> 00:25:51,074
Ryan in the head. Yeah.

562
00:25:51,122 --> 00:25:51,538
>> Will: Yeah.

563
00:25:51,634 --> 00:25:54,562
>> Sarah : Because he was about to turn his gun on Xavier. Because he

564
00:25:54,586 --> 00:25:56,514
was not getting on that helicopter.

565
00:25:56,642 --> 00:25:59,602
>> Will: Nope. He was not clear for Versailles. And

566
00:25:59,626 --> 00:26:01,790
actually, you know, one of the things I thought, you know,

567
00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:05,260
ever since they. They reveal this

568
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:08,204
whole protocol, the Versailles protocol, and it

569
00:26:08,212 --> 00:26:11,084
gets to the larger philosophical Things that was also, you know, at

570
00:26:11,092 --> 00:26:13,916
display with this episode with. To your point, about

571
00:26:14,068 --> 00:26:16,844
people realizing that some are. Some are going to be

572
00:26:16,932 --> 00:26:19,932
going out, like Xavier and President, and

573
00:26:20,036 --> 00:26:22,988
some are going to be stuck behind, like Marcia. You know,

574
00:26:23,044 --> 00:26:24,600
I was like, why? You know,

575
00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:29,262
I guess the term Versailles, you know, it

576
00:26:29,286 --> 00:26:32,142
was basically, you know, as we all know, you know, the, the

577
00:26:32,246 --> 00:26:35,130
pilots in France where the, you know, kings and.

578
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:38,614
And, four former French kings

579
00:26:38,662 --> 00:26:41,446
will, you know, go, ah, and everything.

580
00:26:41,518 --> 00:26:44,422
And. And, you know, I thought about. It was just like, you know, that's a

581
00:26:44,446 --> 00:26:47,254
good, I guess, analogy or, you know, or whatever

582
00:26:47,302 --> 00:26:49,820
for. For, for this bunker for paradise.

583
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,216
I, was interested. I was like, that's interesting. They called it that, but it's actually

584
00:26:53,272 --> 00:26:55,872
really is like the haves and have nots, because.

585
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,864
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

586
00:26:57,896 --> 00:27:00,680
>> Sarah : I was just like, they didn't build an ark.

587
00:27:00,824 --> 00:27:03,800
They didn't. An arc. They built a bunker that

588
00:27:03,824 --> 00:27:06,568
they knew could only hold a certain amount of people.

589
00:27:06,688 --> 00:27:09,688
And that's also why they

590
00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:12,616
couldn't tell everyone, right, Is because

591
00:27:12,672 --> 00:27:15,508
the more people. So you.

592
00:27:16,208 --> 00:27:17,748
Again, you understand

593
00:27:18,608 --> 00:27:21,560
the, The. The logic in

594
00:27:21,584 --> 00:27:23,348
it, Even though it's,

595
00:27:24,408 --> 00:27:27,344
it's. It is a bit of a moral

596
00:27:27,456 --> 00:27:29,872
dilemma at the end of the day, especially

597
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040
when things start to go wrong

598
00:27:33,104 --> 00:27:36,080
and suddenly you're looking face to

599
00:27:36,104 --> 00:27:38,272
face with. With a staff member

600
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,334
who, has a sick son, and you're

601
00:27:41,366 --> 00:27:44,310
like, I. I sure I will

602
00:27:44,334 --> 00:27:45,458
do what I can.

603
00:27:47,198 --> 00:27:49,764
What are you supposed to say? Yeah,

604
00:27:49,876 --> 00:27:52,852
yes, yes, my theory. I. I do have a theory

605
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:55,608
that she's the one who killed Cal. but.

606
00:27:55,648 --> 00:27:58,168
Yeah, yeah, I think. I think that's an. That's an

607
00:27:58,208 --> 00:28:01,128
obvious one. Yeah. Which makes me think

608
00:28:01,168 --> 00:28:03,108
it's probably not gonna happen.

609
00:28:03,708 --> 00:28:06,468
but. Because I also just

610
00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:09,380
wonder, like, they're in Colorado and distance and

611
00:28:09,404 --> 00:28:12,068
all of that. I have. I have a lot of. Of

612
00:28:12,108 --> 00:28:14,808
questions about the people who survived.

613
00:28:15,168 --> 00:28:15,948
Yeah.

614
00:28:18,288 --> 00:28:21,192
>> Will: Yeah. Because they had. Yeah. I mean, obviously, you know, obviously, you

615
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,120
know, as far as the president, his staff, I

616
00:28:24,144 --> 00:28:26,760
mean, I noticed, you know, the one plane that went down was like, Congress

617
00:28:26,824 --> 00:28:29,752
and the judiciary. So, you know, it was

618
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,696
clearly. It was a lot of these people

619
00:28:32,832 --> 00:28:35,720
who were the 25, 000 that were going to go to this

620
00:28:35,744 --> 00:28:38,680
bunker. We're going to be, you know, it's really like continuity of

621
00:28:38,704 --> 00:28:39,988
government at this point.

622
00:28:40,528 --> 00:28:41,878
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

623
00:28:41,878 --> 00:28:44,694
>> Will: especially as you see the other geopolitical

624
00:28:44,742 --> 00:28:47,606
things going on around, you know, and it does. You know,

625
00:28:47,678 --> 00:28:50,454
and also I think, you know, we. We talked about

626
00:28:50,622 --> 00:28:53,622
whenever we were theorizing early on, like, are there other

627
00:28:53,726 --> 00:28:56,678
bunkers? And paradises around the US

628
00:28:56,734 --> 00:28:59,542
or around the world. And I think, you know, clearly, I think

629
00:28:59,566 --> 00:29:02,410
this episode establishes that. Yeah, there's,

630
00:29:03,870 --> 00:29:06,802
you know, people knew this was coming, didn't know, like,

631
00:29:06,826 --> 00:29:09,808
when it was coming. especially. I thought it was pretty interesting whenever

632
00:29:09,904 --> 00:29:11,980
the president's like, you know, bring the nerds in

633
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,260
and so.

634
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320
>> Sarah : So you still stand by the theory that there are

635
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,872
multiple blunkers in the.

636
00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:22,480
>> Will: U.S. i don't know about in the U.S.

637
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,490
but I, do think that there are maybe

638
00:29:25,554 --> 00:29:27,058
some in other parts of the world.

639
00:29:27,178 --> 00:29:29,938
>> Sarah : Oh, yeah. Yeah. That I can buy in. I

640
00:29:29,978 --> 00:29:32,850
don't think that. I've never thought that there was more than one

641
00:29:32,954 --> 00:29:35,038
bunker in the US that's not.

642
00:29:35,498 --> 00:29:38,450
>> Will: Or if they're. Yeah. Or if there may be some safe. It might be. I

643
00:29:38,474 --> 00:29:41,442
don't know if it's like the level of paradise. There might be some safe houses. Because the

644
00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:44,434
generals did say they were going to. Fought, you know, they were going to, like, land in St.

645
00:29:44,466 --> 00:29:45,438
Louis. So.

646
00:29:45,778 --> 00:29:48,422
>> Sarah : Yeah, but I, I. I don't. I

647
00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:51,222
don't. That was number

648
00:29:51,310 --> 00:29:54,070
two. And, and they don't know how well the safe

649
00:29:54,134 --> 00:29:56,838
house would hold up. But this is

650
00:29:56,878 --> 00:29:59,830
speculation for another time before, because we kind

651
00:29:59,854 --> 00:30:02,794
of jumped ahead inadvertently, and failed

652
00:30:02,826 --> 00:30:05,466
to talk about the nuclear football of it all and the red

653
00:30:05,522 --> 00:30:07,706
codes versus blue codes, which is

654
00:30:07,762 --> 00:30:10,088
payoff to the,

655
00:30:10,598 --> 00:30:13,504
The open. The cold open, because

656
00:30:13,656 --> 00:30:16,352
as. While they're on Air Force One,

657
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,518
Cal, Cal has a.

658
00:30:19,898 --> 00:30:22,210
Not a meltdown, but he.

659
00:30:22,314 --> 00:30:24,528
He, His

660
00:30:24,568 --> 00:30:27,532
frustration escalates and it's

661
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:30,460
getting. He's getting the word that

662
00:30:30,564 --> 00:30:33,100
there is pretty much about to be a

663
00:30:33,124 --> 00:30:35,980
nuclear attack. And so he has to make a

664
00:30:36,004 --> 00:30:38,492
decision whether or not to launch the nukes.

665
00:30:38,620 --> 00:30:41,564
And, And, with the nuclear football.

666
00:30:41,652 --> 00:30:43,996
And that leads to Samantha trying

667
00:30:44,068 --> 00:30:46,764
to tell him what to do.

668
00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:49,612
And this again, like

669
00:30:49,716 --> 00:30:52,550
California, from what we've seen of

670
00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:55,462
him, I can

671
00:30:55,486 --> 00:30:58,454
appreciate. And this is across the board for all the characters. All the

672
00:30:58,462 --> 00:31:00,410
characters here are consistent.

673
00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:03,210
And yes,

674
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:07,046
this is one of the few times when we've

675
00:31:07,078 --> 00:31:10,070
seen him really be a

676
00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:12,890
leader and be authoritative

677
00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:16,278
and, clearly know it's always

678
00:31:16,334 --> 00:31:19,046
been in him. Like, you don't. You don't have a father

679
00:31:19,158 --> 00:31:21,762
like he did and not have that in

680
00:31:21,786 --> 00:31:24,594
you. It's just that the father has always

681
00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:25,630
kind of,

682
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:30,022
smothered, that out of him. Because

683
00:31:30,126 --> 00:31:32,966
like my father says, go,

684
00:31:33,118 --> 00:31:35,894
yeah, but he's. He's the one. And he's

685
00:31:35,942 --> 00:31:37,974
just tired of everyone else making

686
00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:40,370
decisions and.

687
00:31:40,750 --> 00:31:42,890
And he. He decides.

688
00:31:43,550 --> 00:31:46,420
And what I can also appreciate is is because

689
00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:49,268
it's Cal. It's like not everyone even

690
00:31:49,324 --> 00:31:52,046
realizes this. Right. like

691
00:31:52,118 --> 00:31:54,446
what he actually did, which we learned

692
00:31:54,558 --> 00:31:57,342
that that general who we

693
00:31:57,446 --> 00:31:59,730
saw at the beginning of the episode,

694
00:32:00,050 --> 00:32:02,938
built or had built a fail fail

695
00:32:02,994 --> 00:32:05,274
safe. And they said blue code

696
00:32:05,402 --> 00:32:08,106
codes. And now, now correct me if I'm

697
00:32:08,138 --> 00:32:09,306
wrong, Will.

698
00:32:09,458 --> 00:32:09,834
>> Will: Yeah.

699
00:32:09,882 --> 00:32:12,426
>> Sarah : So essentially what we're told is the blue

700
00:32:12,458 --> 00:32:15,426
codes will turn off

701
00:32:15,578 --> 00:32:17,010
everything in the world.

702
00:32:17,130 --> 00:32:19,842
>> Will: Yeah. It's electromagnetic pulse. Yeah. So it's.

703
00:32:19,906 --> 00:32:22,466
Okay, so it's emp and.

704
00:32:22,618 --> 00:32:24,470
Yeah. So. Yeah.

705
00:32:25,610 --> 00:32:28,386
>> Sarah : How, how was the plane still flying

706
00:32:28,498 --> 00:32:29,150
after.

707
00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:33,026
>> Will: So that was the tracking. So that's when, you know,

708
00:32:33,098 --> 00:32:36,098
as Cal, two things. One, just wanted to

709
00:32:36,154 --> 00:32:39,042
get to what you were saying with Cal. And then I'll answer a

710
00:32:39,066 --> 00:32:41,590
question about why the plane was up

711
00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:44,810
really to your point about characters being

712
00:32:44,850 --> 00:32:47,546
consistent. And, and this

713
00:32:47,618 --> 00:32:50,490
was very much the case. And I could

714
00:32:50,530 --> 00:32:52,910
not help but think about the first episode,

715
00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:56,246
when Cal and Xavier when had the, had the,

716
00:32:56,318 --> 00:32:59,270
the initial interview because again they, again they referenced that in this

717
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:02,028
episode too. but the thing that he

718
00:33:02,084 --> 00:33:04,800
talked about was this, you know, he want, you know, how he wanted to be a school

719
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,808
teacher and we, you know, all, all his background, but he,

720
00:33:07,864 --> 00:33:10,352
the thing that he said was he just, you

721
00:33:10,376 --> 00:33:13,328
know, you know, he knows that at the end of the day he's

722
00:33:13,344 --> 00:33:15,856
hoping he's a decent enough person to base. I'm paraphrasing,

723
00:33:15,888 --> 00:33:18,800
but decent enough person to be able to

724
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,380
be behind this desk and make the hard decisions.

725
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,304
And, and, and to that point when we saw,

726
00:33:25,392 --> 00:33:28,232
you know, all the build up with him, look, like you said, seeing the

727
00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:31,112
janitor, talking to him and just say, look, you know, it's going to be bad,

728
00:33:31,136 --> 00:33:33,822
you should leave. And, and, and

729
00:33:33,926 --> 00:33:36,718
basically telling American people the truth.

730
00:33:36,670 --> 00:33:39,214
you know, when the chips were down, Cal did

731
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:41,806
and you know, did the right thing. And like you

732
00:33:41,846 --> 00:33:44,782
said, it was to give everyone a choice.

733
00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:47,342
And again it was that moral dilemma that

734
00:33:47,494 --> 00:33:49,918
we saw between him and

735
00:33:49,942 --> 00:33:52,334
Sinatra where

736
00:33:52,390 --> 00:33:55,326
Sinatra was like, no, don't, you know.

737
00:33:55,446 --> 00:33:58,110
Yeah, don't, you know, just set off the attack.

738
00:33:58,198 --> 00:33:59,946
So you know, because you know, she

739
00:34:00,766 --> 00:34:03,506
was really wanting to like make sure that

740
00:34:04,696 --> 00:34:07,196
this bun, you know, the paradise was. Would

741
00:34:07,816 --> 00:34:10,656
give the, the 25 000, you know, a real chance to

742
00:34:10,696 --> 00:34:13,568
restart the human race. And, and of course to get

743
00:34:13,592 --> 00:34:16,036
to your second point. Yeah, with the pulse

744
00:34:16,616 --> 00:34:19,552
that, you know, when you, I think, you know, he said whenever

745
00:34:19,584 --> 00:34:21,840
he activated it was like about 20 minutes to

746
00:34:21,928 --> 00:34:24,800
landing. So you, you, you know, when you

747
00:34:24,808 --> 00:34:27,264
saw on the screen, you could see like the The, The.

748
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,816
The The. The pulse,

749
00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:32,776
like track, you know, growing across

750
00:34:32,816 --> 00:34:35,720
the globe. So I guess, you

751
00:34:35,728 --> 00:34:38,680
know, so he calculated, you know, again with all the training

752
00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:41,576
and protocols and stuff, he calculated like, he

753
00:34:41,616 --> 00:34:44,436
knew that if they were about 20 minutes out from.

754
00:34:44,896 --> 00:34:47,560
From the bunker that, you know, as far as

755
00:34:47,728 --> 00:34:50,630
the impact of the emp, they would be

756
00:34:50,638 --> 00:34:53,298
able to land. And again, clearly, And clearly when they

757
00:34:53,322 --> 00:34:56,178
designed, you know, the facility, you know,

758
00:34:56,202 --> 00:34:58,978
they made it, you know, they had definitely some

759
00:34:59,002 --> 00:35:01,986
countermeasures to the emp, so that's why all the computers and stuff are

760
00:35:02,026 --> 00:35:02,994
still working there.

761
00:35:03,130 --> 00:35:06,066
>> Sarah : Right, Got it, Got it. Okay. Just

762
00:35:06,106 --> 00:35:08,818
wanted to make sure I understood about why.

763
00:35:08,922 --> 00:35:11,714
Why the plane was still in the air after. After

764
00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:14,242
he did what he did. but

765
00:35:14,394 --> 00:35:16,886
I thought that the

766
00:35:17,066 --> 00:35:19,936
conversation between Samantha and,

767
00:35:19,886 --> 00:35:22,624
Cal was interesting just

768
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,216
because the previous episode, the

769
00:35:25,256 --> 00:35:27,664
parallel with the conversation to shut down

770
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,336
paradise when.

771
00:35:30,456 --> 00:35:33,376
When that's like you put. You

772
00:35:33,496 --> 00:35:36,080
shut it down and we go back

773
00:35:36,248 --> 00:35:39,200
into like that first day and.

774
00:35:39,368 --> 00:35:42,208
And everyone realizes they're in a, In

775
00:35:42,232 --> 00:35:45,228
a cave and it's just as.

776
00:35:45,332 --> 00:35:48,236
So, so similar. And to see the

777
00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:51,196
choice that she made, like technically both

778
00:35:51,236 --> 00:35:53,964
of them made the same choice. They

779
00:35:54,020 --> 00:35:55,816
both shut. Shut it down.

780
00:35:56,706 --> 00:35:58,954
even though the. The alternative for

781
00:35:59,010 --> 00:36:01,626
Samantha was. Was not as

782
00:36:01,746 --> 00:36:04,398
high, high stakes as it was for Cal.

783
00:36:04,778 --> 00:36:07,162
But But yeah, I

784
00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:09,306
appreciated that parallel between.

785
00:36:09,362 --> 00:36:12,208
>> Will: The previous episode and also

786
00:36:12,248 --> 00:36:15,216
the episode prior to that when we see their. Their final

787
00:36:15,272 --> 00:36:17,508
conversation, their con, their conversation,

788
00:36:18,498 --> 00:36:21,446
the day of his death, as far as who's

789
00:36:21,462 --> 00:36:23,848
in charge, of the

790
00:36:24,228 --> 00:36:27,132
Of Paradise. Yeah, you know,

791
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:29,820
I just think, you know, it just. Again, this. This.

792
00:36:29,924 --> 00:36:32,812
I'm so glad that they, they held the

793
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,660
actual day of events to this, to the

794
00:36:35,684 --> 00:36:38,348
penultimate because it just. It just

795
00:36:38,388 --> 00:36:41,324
pays off all the things that we've seen

796
00:36:41,396 --> 00:36:43,728
in these. In the prior six episodes.

797
00:36:44,588 --> 00:36:47,588
you know, really resolves a lot of questions. But, you know, there's still.

798
00:36:47,628 --> 00:36:50,340
There's still some, you know, many that are still still out

799
00:36:50,364 --> 00:36:53,244
there. namely, who. Who is the real killer.

800
00:36:53,276 --> 00:36:56,128
Because we do learn that as. As you noted,

801
00:36:56,468 --> 00:36:59,420
the DNA didn't match anyone in the. In the system. In the

802
00:37:01,374 --> 00:37:02,262
>> Will: Yep.

803
00:37:02,438 --> 00:37:05,366
>> Sarah : In the bunker. It did not match anyone in the bunker.

804
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:07,314
So it. It came from.

805
00:37:07,614 --> 00:37:10,550
Supposedly it came from someone

806
00:37:10,622 --> 00:37:13,302
outside. Yeah, I say that just

807
00:37:13,358 --> 00:37:16,214
because I wouldn't put it past a writer to

808
00:37:16,254 --> 00:37:18,514
come up with some way where like

809
00:37:19,214 --> 00:37:21,958
they. There was a switch and.

810
00:37:22,046 --> 00:37:24,674
Yeah. Anyway, but

811
00:37:24,974 --> 00:37:26,016
I, What?

812
00:37:26,406 --> 00:37:27,598
>> Will: No. No. Good.

813
00:37:27,782 --> 00:37:30,590
>> Sarah : Oh, Yeah. Yeah, I,

814
00:37:30,678 --> 00:37:32,736
I still like all. All.

815
00:37:32,736 --> 00:37:32,846
>> Will: Ah.

816
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:35,790
>> Sarah : At this rate, guys, you should have jumped on

817
00:37:35,878 --> 00:37:38,830
the moment I said it. And during, when we were talking the pilot,

818
00:37:38,878 --> 00:37:41,306
Terry killed Cal. Okay. Come on.

819
00:37:41,606 --> 00:37:42,786
So obvious.

820
00:37:43,846 --> 00:37:46,506
>> Will: I don't think it's Terry though. I don't think she has time.

821
00:37:46,966 --> 00:37:49,546
>> Sarah : I. She had three years.

822
00:37:49,926 --> 00:37:52,862
>> Will: Yeah, true, but. Yeah, but you know,

823
00:37:53,014 --> 00:37:54,426
I don't know. I think that.

824
00:37:55,126 --> 00:37:57,774
>> Sarah : I don't know. But I would also like to point

825
00:37:57,830 --> 00:38:00,814
out second episode I said at that

826
00:38:00,870 --> 00:38:03,342
point, I was like, we have not

827
00:38:03,414 --> 00:38:04,862
met the killer.

828
00:38:04,974 --> 00:38:06,830
>> Will: You did say that. You did say that.

829
00:38:06,918 --> 00:38:09,870
>> Sarah : Say that verbatim. And Will shot me down

830
00:38:09,958 --> 00:38:12,894
hard. He was like, hell no. It's totally. Some of blah,

831
00:38:12,910 --> 00:38:15,026
blah, blah. No. Okay,

832
00:38:15,526 --> 00:38:18,186
now that's. That's what I'm going with.

833
00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:22,136
We don't know and it's a theory. So.

834
00:38:22,286 --> 00:38:25,146
So, my odds are in my favor that we. I am

835
00:38:25,186 --> 00:38:27,802
correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

836
00:38:27,834 --> 00:38:30,606
yeah, yeah. I still stick your hands.

837
00:38:32,066 --> 00:38:34,826
>> Will: Yeah, but we have met Terry though, so it can't be her

838
00:38:34,866 --> 00:38:35,450
now.

839
00:38:35,618 --> 00:38:38,538
>> Sarah : Oh, well, yeah, we have met her now, but not when

840
00:38:38,562 --> 00:38:39,066
I said it.

841
00:38:39,106 --> 00:38:40,366
>> Will: Oh, you said it. Yeah.

842
00:38:41,146 --> 00:38:43,996
>> Sarah : like we're still led to believe that she died, which

843
00:38:44,036 --> 00:38:46,988
is total spell not a mile away. We knew she was

844
00:38:47,012 --> 00:38:49,546
alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

845
00:38:49,886 --> 00:38:52,838
yeah, yeah. Which, which she's alive, but so are

846
00:38:52,862 --> 00:38:55,446
a bunch of other people. Yeah,

847
00:38:55,606 --> 00:38:58,534
those were a lot of calls. A lot of

848
00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:00,746
stuff. The whole rebuilding.

849
00:39:01,266 --> 00:39:04,202
And. And yeah, I just. I don't

850
00:39:04,234 --> 00:39:06,858
know how next week is gonna go with the

851
00:39:06,882 --> 00:39:08,846
finale or anything.

852
00:39:09,186 --> 00:39:11,674
But what I will say

853
00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:14,614
is that, all

854
00:39:14,670 --> 00:39:17,606
this episode did for me, besides the things

855
00:39:17,646 --> 00:39:20,486
that I've previously mentioned is really make me

856
00:39:20,526 --> 00:39:22,934
want season two to just be like,

857
00:39:22,990 --> 00:39:25,190
okay, show us Terry's

858
00:39:25,238 --> 00:39:27,846
journey. Yeah, because.

859
00:39:27,966 --> 00:39:30,506
Because we've been stuck in paradise

860
00:39:30,846 --> 00:39:33,626
for parade episodes. Okay.

861
00:39:34,126 --> 00:39:36,626
I would like to, Now that we've seen the

862
00:39:36,666 --> 00:39:39,006
day, the events of the day.

863
00:39:40,196 --> 00:39:43,036
>> Sarah : I would like to like, like

864
00:39:43,076 --> 00:39:45,836
watch a show that's just about those people. Because

865
00:39:45,876 --> 00:39:48,156
that seems very interesting.

866
00:39:48,316 --> 00:39:51,180
>> Will: Oh yes, basically.

867
00:39:51,308 --> 00:39:54,108
It totally does. I mean basically the rest of the world is back in the

868
00:39:54,132 --> 00:39:54,844
dark ages.

869
00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:57,756
>> Sarah : Roughly to be

870
00:39:57,796 --> 00:40:00,300
a have not. And. And also

871
00:40:00,468 --> 00:40:03,308
someone. Why I think Terry's perspective would be

872
00:40:03,332 --> 00:40:05,736
interesting is because she was on the list.

873
00:40:06,476 --> 00:40:09,460
And you could bring in some other people who we've seen in

874
00:40:09,468 --> 00:40:12,324
this episode too. But if they ever want to make a spin

875
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:15,140
off. I'm. I'm probably, I'm thinking they probably

876
00:40:15,188 --> 00:40:17,556
won't knowing the showrunner, but who

877
00:40:17,596 --> 00:40:20,400
knows? you could, you could totally

878
00:40:20,448 --> 00:40:22,512
do one from, from the

879
00:40:22,584 --> 00:40:23,556
survivors.

880
00:40:24,956 --> 00:40:27,908
>> Will: yeah, I think that's. Yeah, I think, I think

881
00:40:27,932 --> 00:40:30,836
you're Actually. Right. I think they'll probably. What they'll do is

882
00:40:30,876 --> 00:40:33,802
they will have present

883
00:40:33,874 --> 00:40:36,834
day, in

884
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:39,730
paradise, you know, as far as like, you know,

885
00:40:39,818 --> 00:40:42,526
you know, the fallout from the events of season one.

886
00:40:42,826 --> 00:40:42,856
But.

887
00:40:42,856 --> 00:40:45,712
>> Will: Also I think, I think the flashbacks will be a

888
00:40:45,736 --> 00:40:48,620
mix of like, as you said, the

889
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,180
journey for all the people who did

890
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,882
make it, on.

891
00:40:52,906 --> 00:40:55,442
>> Sarah : That day and who did crash the

892
00:40:55,466 --> 00:40:58,434
bunker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

893
00:40:58,562 --> 00:41:00,818
And then that whole, that

894
00:41:00,874 --> 00:41:02,840
whole whole Thing.

895
00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:06,124
>> Will: Yeah, because. Yeah, they did. Yeah. Because you

896
00:41:06,132 --> 00:41:09,000
know, they sent the expos exposition out there and

897
00:41:09,260 --> 00:41:11,630
you know, they, you know, we, as we do. As we know,

898
00:41:11,590 --> 00:41:14,302
Billy, you know, they

899
00:41:14,326 --> 00:41:17,172
did note that they found someone, when we were listening to

900
00:41:17,196 --> 00:41:19,188
the recordings on the tablet. So.

901
00:41:19,324 --> 00:41:22,276
>> Sarah : Yeah. And then they killed him. Yeah, well, they killed

902
00:41:22,388 --> 00:41:23,212
all of them.

903
00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:25,516
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because.

904
00:41:25,588 --> 00:41:28,332
>> Sarah : Because which, which I like, like

905
00:41:28,436 --> 00:41:31,292
she made it very clear I

906
00:41:31,316 --> 00:41:34,268
didn't. I wasn't going to kill them. They wanted to bring

907
00:41:34,324 --> 00:41:37,244
someone back and so they could. They couldn't

908
00:41:37,292 --> 00:41:39,860
just kill that one person. They had to kill, them all

909
00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:42,772
because then word would have gotten out

910
00:41:42,828 --> 00:41:45,268
and all of that stuff. And like,

911
00:41:45,356 --> 00:41:45,984
I,

912
00:41:48,894 --> 00:41:51,782
I find that interesting. And then she says,

913
00:41:51,918 --> 00:41:54,868
Samantha says, to Xavier at the end of

914
00:41:54,876 --> 00:41:57,812
the episode. Do you know where your daughter is? We already

915
00:41:57,868 --> 00:42:00,704
knew that this whole hostage thing was going to happen.

916
00:42:01,004 --> 00:42:03,764
I found it. I found it odd though, if

917
00:42:03,804 --> 00:42:06,356
she's such a villain, maybe this is just a

918
00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:08,884
villainary misstep. You

919
00:42:08,924 --> 00:42:11,624
basically give him what he wants,

920
00:42:12,284 --> 00:42:14,916
only. Only then for you to pull out the

921
00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:17,184
leverage. Like, he didn't have to do that.

922
00:42:17,764 --> 00:42:20,684
You didn't have to promise to get his wife back. He

923
00:42:20,724 --> 00:42:23,532
could have just used the daughter the whole time, but

924
00:42:23,588 --> 00:42:26,202
whatever. so,

925
00:42:26,338 --> 00:42:28,826
so, so she uses the daughter

926
00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:31,846
to Because now he.

927
00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:34,886
She needs him to actually find the

928
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:37,444
killer of Cow. Because

929
00:42:37,904 --> 00:42:40,216
now I could be wrong,

930
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,164
but to me,

931
00:42:42,614 --> 00:42:45,534
apparently Samantha ain't

932
00:42:45,614 --> 00:42:48,126
ain't on the DL that. That the

933
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:50,862
tablet has been found. And Jeremy,

934
00:42:51,038 --> 00:42:53,998
last episode was holding a whole court

935
00:42:54,166 --> 00:42:56,974
of people explaining the tablet.

936
00:42:57,134 --> 00:42:59,834
So. So I don't. I don't know.

937
00:43:00,764 --> 00:43:03,504
>> Sarah : I. It's still a mystery to me about

938
00:43:03,884 --> 00:43:06,740
Samantha's motive on finding the killer

939
00:43:06,852 --> 00:43:09,798
because before it was just about the tablet, but the

940
00:43:09,806 --> 00:43:12,118
tablet's free and out and.

941
00:43:12,286 --> 00:43:14,838
And that secret's

942
00:43:14,886 --> 00:43:17,846
gonna like. So. But she still wants to

943
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:19,350
find the killer. So.

944
00:43:19,502 --> 00:43:22,454
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So the tablet's still it out. The tablet's out

945
00:43:22,494 --> 00:43:25,030
in the open now. Jeremy, you know, we said if you watched

946
00:43:25,062 --> 00:43:27,994
the preview, you know, we saw the night of

947
00:43:28,834 --> 00:43:31,410
when Xavier, Shut

948
00:43:31,442 --> 00:43:31,922
that.

949
00:43:32,058 --> 00:43:34,174
>> Sarah : Did not watch the preview. I did not watch the preview.

950
00:43:34,274 --> 00:43:37,206
>> Will: Okay. Okay, I won't say anything then. yeah, if, but

951
00:43:37,230 --> 00:43:39,764
folks, if you have watched it, if, you know, you know, but

952
00:43:40,434 --> 00:43:43,246
the, night of the

953
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:46,206
incident, though, when Xavier did take things over, I mean, Jeremy was

954
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:48,958
already, like I said, he was already out there talking and, and

955
00:43:49,046 --> 00:43:52,046
the, the, the, you know, the things have been

956
00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:54,766
set back and you know, the other person that we didn't see in this

957
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:57,690
episode was Gabby Durabi.

958
00:43:57,822 --> 00:44:00,514
>> Sarah : Yeah. So that's why I like this episode.

959
00:44:00,674 --> 00:44:03,534
>> Will: Yeah. But,

960
00:44:03,786 --> 00:44:05,938
but you know what, her role

961
00:44:06,106 --> 00:44:08,654
in all of this also,

962
00:44:09,114 --> 00:44:12,066
as we, as we move forward now, given that, you know,

963
00:44:12,090 --> 00:44:14,174
things have been reset within,

964
00:44:14,714 --> 00:44:16,824
within paradise. how,

965
00:44:17,524 --> 00:44:20,332
you know, what, you know, what's our role

966
00:44:20,388 --> 00:44:23,206
in all this? And, and, and

967
00:44:23,230 --> 00:44:26,118
what, you know, is, you know, Kyle was clearly going to

968
00:44:26,206 --> 00:44:28,790
her to, you know, get therapy as far as just

969
00:44:28,942 --> 00:44:31,670
dealing with the consequences of his decision. And,

970
00:44:31,742 --> 00:44:34,742
and, and, and, and all,

971
00:44:34,798 --> 00:44:37,474
and all. And, and also just to

972
00:44:38,254 --> 00:44:41,238
show, you know, and also just. And again, getting back to

973
00:44:41,246 --> 00:44:44,246
their motivations. I know we got wrapped around in semantics last

974
00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:45,894
week about, why

975
00:44:46,514 --> 00:44:49,366
Sinatra and, you know,

976
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:52,198
his motivations for, for keeping the, keeping the experiment

977
00:44:52,246 --> 00:44:55,238
going. Ah, keeping the, keeping. Well, almost. Well, I guess,

978
00:44:55,286 --> 00:44:57,830
Well, I guess it's somewhat of a social, social engineering

979
00:44:57,862 --> 00:45:00,470
experiment for, for the Robbie and

980
00:45:00,542 --> 00:45:03,478
Samantha. I guess it's just her, I guess her private

981
00:45:03,566 --> 00:45:05,604
little therapy,

982
00:45:06,284 --> 00:45:08,544
thing as far as the memorial to her son.

983
00:45:09,154 --> 00:45:12,130
but, yeah, so, you know, that's the sort of one

984
00:45:12,154 --> 00:45:15,030
of those wild cards. And I think it'll maybe have, you

985
00:45:15,054 --> 00:45:17,862
know, something. I don't know if it'll

986
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:20,582
play into the larger discovery

987
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:23,510
of someone, you know, of

988
00:45:23,534 --> 00:45:26,390
people being outside of the, outside of the bunker if

989
00:45:26,414 --> 00:45:28,098
the Robbie knows that or not.

990
00:45:28,398 --> 00:45:31,094
>> Sarah : okay, okay, so you're confusing me. So you're

991
00:45:31,126 --> 00:45:34,038
speculating right now on the next

992
00:45:34,078 --> 00:45:34,966
week's episode.

993
00:45:35,062 --> 00:45:35,878
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

994
00:45:35,958 --> 00:45:38,614
>> Sarah : Okay. Based off of the preview. And you think

995
00:45:38,686 --> 00:45:40,712
that so, not the preview.

996
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,656
>> Will: Just, just off of like, just off of like what, what happened

997
00:45:43,672 --> 00:45:46,228
in episode six as far as, like, the

998
00:45:46,528 --> 00:45:49,352
knowing that Jeremy has the tablet out there in the open, knowing

999
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,784
now that people in the bunker have been reset.

1000
00:45:51,896 --> 00:45:52,548
>> Sarah : Right.

1001
00:45:54,158 --> 00:45:57,062
>> Will: and, and what

1002
00:45:57,150 --> 00:45:59,378
role the Robbie is going to have

1003
00:46:00,078 --> 00:46:03,014
in helping out, you know, helping

1004
00:46:03,046 --> 00:46:05,828
either Sinatra or helping Xavier, you know,

1005
00:46:05,868 --> 00:46:08,426
with getting his, daughter back

1006
00:46:08,482 --> 00:46:10,842
from the. Okay, yeah,

1007
00:46:10,970 --> 00:46:13,834
yeah, because I still think she's the wild

1008
00:46:13,866 --> 00:46:14,428
card here.

1009
00:46:14,838 --> 00:46:16,844
>> Sarah : that's, that's fine. That's fine.

1010
00:46:16,956 --> 00:46:17,244
>> Will: Yeah.

1011
00:46:17,276 --> 00:46:20,060
>> Sarah : I, I, I have, I, I don't care about her

1012
00:46:20,084 --> 00:46:20,968
at all.

1013
00:46:23,748 --> 00:46:26,252
Do not care. She's a pick me girl.

1014
00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,168
She him on the second episode.

1015
00:46:29,758 --> 00:46:32,258
Good riddance. Don't care.

1016
00:46:32,558 --> 00:46:35,538
She's the most inconsistent out of all of them.

1017
00:46:37,198 --> 00:46:40,118
>> Will: I think she's a wild card. I mean that's, that's, that's been

1018
00:46:40,158 --> 00:46:42,538
her consistency. She's unpredictable.

1019
00:46:42,958 --> 00:46:45,878
>> Sarah : Sure, sure, sure. But I also feel

1020
00:46:45,918 --> 00:46:48,326
like you give her way too much credit. But.

1021
00:46:48,382 --> 00:46:51,206
Yeah, yeah. Like, I

1022
00:46:51,342 --> 00:46:54,038
don't know, like out of. The

1023
00:46:54,078 --> 00:46:56,178
only thing I can really say

1024
00:46:56,538 --> 00:46:59,506
is the way what they

1025
00:46:59,562 --> 00:47:02,546
showed us about her in her history with

1026
00:47:02,602 --> 00:47:05,250
especially Samantha is that

1027
00:47:05,354 --> 00:47:08,178
her whole prior to actually

1028
00:47:08,298 --> 00:47:11,138
being in there, like she's the architect,

1029
00:47:11,298 --> 00:47:13,890
the social. She picked the people.

1030
00:47:14,074 --> 00:47:14,838
>> Will: Yeah.

1031
00:47:15,898 --> 00:47:17,810
>> Sarah : Okay. And she also

1032
00:47:17,994 --> 00:47:20,994
specifically. And I don't know how much Samantha

1033
00:47:21,026 --> 00:47:23,910
was involved in it, but I know Samantha was

1034
00:47:23,934 --> 00:47:26,870
not very much involved in the picking of Xavier. I

1035
00:47:26,894 --> 00:47:29,270
was all the

1036
00:47:29,294 --> 00:47:32,118
Robbie. And that right now there

1037
00:47:32,158 --> 00:47:34,658
is why I call her a pick bean girl. But

1038
00:47:36,398 --> 00:47:38,578
so, so she, so

1039
00:47:39,038 --> 00:47:41,670
I. So that parallel with.

1040
00:47:41,774 --> 00:47:44,662
With Cal in this episode, having to face

1041
00:47:44,750 --> 00:47:47,098
people, knowing

1042
00:47:48,568 --> 00:47:51,488
he hasn't been truthful

1043
00:47:51,568 --> 00:47:53,628
about the ex.

1044
00:47:54,168 --> 00:47:57,162
The what the toll

1045
00:47:57,210 --> 00:47:59,930
that this is going to occur or what is coming.

1046
00:48:00,034 --> 00:48:02,762
So people could be in the right place and

1047
00:48:02,850 --> 00:48:05,178
be with the people. There was no

1048
00:48:05,218 --> 00:48:08,010
preparation like that held a

1049
00:48:08,034 --> 00:48:10,874
weight. And from what we saw in that

1050
00:48:10,946 --> 00:48:13,936
second episode with Thurabi, she was also

1051
00:48:13,992 --> 00:48:16,880
dealing with that weight as well. Knowing that she had

1052
00:48:16,904 --> 00:48:19,840
picked people but also being haunted by the

1053
00:48:19,864 --> 00:48:22,348
faces of those. She had to say no.

1054
00:48:24,328 --> 00:48:27,312
So that's the only thing I can really delve

1055
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160
into her character. I don't think beyond

1056
00:48:30,224 --> 00:48:32,228
that she really knows.

1057
00:48:34,008 --> 00:48:36,800
I feel like it was clear. I feel like

1058
00:48:36,824 --> 00:48:39,376
she knew. I forget how and

1059
00:48:39,432 --> 00:48:41,954
when, but it did come to light.

1060
00:48:42,026 --> 00:48:44,626
Like she's aware that there were people.

1061
00:48:44,762 --> 00:48:47,666
And because she kept hounding Samantha about

1062
00:48:47,722 --> 00:48:50,674
like, what are you hiding? And she, she couldn't

1063
00:48:50,706 --> 00:48:53,538
believe, like, oh, we. We could

1064
00:48:53,578 --> 00:48:54,642
be up there.

1065
00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:55,202
>> Will: Yeah.

1066
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:57,890
>> Sarah : Yeah. What. So,

1067
00:48:57,994 --> 00:49:00,658
yeah. But any,

1068
00:49:00,778 --> 00:49:03,682
Any who. I think,

1069
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:05,542
I think we covered it all.

1070
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:08,174
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I think we hit all the major, major

1071
00:49:08,246 --> 00:49:10,840
points. for sure. Okay.

1072
00:49:10,984 --> 00:49:11,896
Yeah. Well.

1073
00:49:11,952 --> 00:49:14,088
>> Sarah : And then now we have to,

1074
00:49:14,438 --> 00:49:17,150
summarize the most recent two

1075
00:49:17,174 --> 00:49:19,870
episodes of Invincible that we both were

1076
00:49:19,894 --> 00:49:22,878
talking before the show and kind of have the

1077
00:49:22,918 --> 00:49:25,578
same opinion about where. It's just

1078
00:49:27,078 --> 00:49:29,790
the. Okay, we. These two

1079
00:49:29,814 --> 00:49:32,594
episodes are filler and

1080
00:49:32,746 --> 00:49:35,346
they, they just. I could

1081
00:49:35,402 --> 00:49:37,518
see the, the points

1082
00:49:38,058 --> 00:49:40,946
that they were trying to, ah, move things

1083
00:49:41,002 --> 00:49:43,986
along. I mean, the first episode, you were

1084
00:49:44,042 --> 00:49:45,078
my hero,

1085
00:49:46,918 --> 00:49:49,630
has. Has this like, very

1086
00:49:49,734 --> 00:49:51,938
odd setup

1087
00:49:52,598 --> 00:49:55,470
where we, where, where Mark is on a

1088
00:49:55,494 --> 00:49:58,446
date and the next thing we know, these people show up,

1089
00:49:58,502 --> 00:50:01,244
fight master and drop kick. And he's suddenly

1090
00:50:01,276 --> 00:50:03,948
taken to the future where there's a

1091
00:50:03,988 --> 00:50:06,874
villain, conqueror or leader there

1092
00:50:07,026 --> 00:50:09,738
who they, they need Mark to

1093
00:50:09,778 --> 00:50:12,618
defeat on their behalf. and

1094
00:50:12,738 --> 00:50:15,690
because we're dealing with time travel, there is

1095
00:50:15,714 --> 00:50:18,622
a cool passing of

1096
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:21,630
the marks where you kind

1097
00:50:21,654 --> 00:50:24,510
of realize, or are tipped off at the beginning

1098
00:50:24,574 --> 00:50:27,440
that, yeah, he makes it out alive, but

1099
00:50:27,464 --> 00:50:30,082
he ain't too happy about it. and that's

1100
00:50:30,130 --> 00:50:33,010
because when you deal with Invincible and

1101
00:50:33,034 --> 00:50:35,938
you deal with time travel, Mark inevitably

1102
00:50:36,018 --> 00:50:37,074
kills someone.

1103
00:50:37,226 --> 00:50:37,778
>> Will: Yep.

1104
00:50:37,858 --> 00:50:40,594
>> Sarah : Okay. Whether it's, whether it's

1105
00:50:40,626 --> 00:50:43,522
time travel or dimension, if you go through a circle

1106
00:50:43,570 --> 00:50:46,034
spinning thing, he ends up

1107
00:50:46,106 --> 00:50:49,074
killing someone. And

1108
00:50:49,226 --> 00:50:51,908
I just, I like that line where

1109
00:50:52,028 --> 00:50:54,900
after he does it, they, they come back

1110
00:50:54,924 --> 00:50:57,732
and it's like, thank you. And he's like, don't thank

1111
00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:58,688
me for that.

1112
00:51:02,188 --> 00:51:05,060
>> Will: That's not a reason to kill someone. Yeah. And someone we're talking about

1113
00:51:05,084 --> 00:51:07,764
here. Clearly you've watched, if you're listening to us, you've watched

1114
00:51:07,796 --> 00:51:10,212
episode. And Mark, in episode

1115
00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:13,242
four comes, with Immortal.

1116
00:51:13,290 --> 00:51:13,658
Yeah.

1117
00:51:13,738 --> 00:51:16,618
>> Sarah : So, I, I,

1118
00:51:17,558 --> 00:51:20,378
I would have loved this

1119
00:51:21,238 --> 00:51:23,934
if it was just more entertaining.

1120
00:51:24,126 --> 00:51:27,054
There's something about the

1121
00:51:27,126 --> 00:51:29,838
setup, the, the, the

1122
00:51:29,878 --> 00:51:32,128
drop kick fight.

1123
00:51:32,606 --> 00:51:35,526
Master of it all. Which one of them is voiced

1124
00:51:35,542 --> 00:51:38,448
by the same actor who plays, in

1125
00:51:38,488 --> 00:51:39,588
Cobra Kai?

1126
00:51:41,258 --> 00:51:43,906
It's the same actor and blanking on,

1127
00:51:44,042 --> 00:51:46,786
on his name. But, but, but I did

1128
00:51:46,842 --> 00:51:49,618
see it on IMDb that he was voiced by

1129
00:51:49,658 --> 00:51:52,194
him. and,

1130
00:51:52,346 --> 00:51:54,994
but there was just something about

1131
00:51:55,146 --> 00:51:56,918
whether it be the pacing

1132
00:51:58,058 --> 00:52:00,834
or the, the two on the nose

1133
00:52:00,946 --> 00:52:03,890
writing of it all, that it just didn't

1134
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:06,198
work to me. I just felt bored

1135
00:52:06,618 --> 00:52:09,596
and I just felt, felt not

1136
00:52:09,652 --> 00:52:12,460
engaged and, or entertained at all

1137
00:52:12,564 --> 00:52:15,308
about it. I just was, it was

1138
00:52:15,348 --> 00:52:18,156
just like. Okay, I get where this,

1139
00:52:18,292 --> 00:52:21,292
yeah, get it. I understand. He killed

1140
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:23,852
again. Which kind of

1141
00:52:24,020 --> 00:52:26,860
jumps off of the beats we were talking about last week

1142
00:52:26,884 --> 00:52:29,180
with the first three episodes about

1143
00:52:29,364 --> 00:52:31,328
how he's

1144
00:52:32,788 --> 00:52:35,112
like, Mark is putting on a face.

1145
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:35,856
>> Will: Yeah.

1146
00:52:35,952 --> 00:52:38,848
>> Sarah : Where, but he hasn't really dealt with the fact that

1147
00:52:38,888 --> 00:52:41,778
he killed Armstrong. And

1148
00:52:41,728 --> 00:52:44,478
and and now he has Oliver who has

1149
00:52:44,518 --> 00:52:47,518
also now killed. And it's like the

1150
00:52:47,558 --> 00:52:50,558
whole, I don't want to be like, my father is

1151
00:52:50,598 --> 00:52:52,018
a murderer.

1152
00:52:54,998 --> 00:52:57,902
>> Will: Yeah, Yeah. I, I, Yeah, I thought this, it

1153
00:52:57,910 --> 00:53:00,814
was fine. I mean, as we were talking beforehand and

1154
00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:03,848
share with our listeners now, I felt like,

1155
00:53:04,628 --> 00:53:07,212
you know, this is like

1156
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:10,140
the trouble with Invincible

1157
00:53:10,204 --> 00:53:12,168
where it sometimes has

1158
00:53:12,468 --> 00:53:14,968
difficulty merging to.

1159
00:53:15,988 --> 00:53:18,812
And it happens about this. It really does happen at 4. Fifth

1160
00:53:18,860 --> 00:53:21,436
episode where this the series just sort

1161
00:53:21,452 --> 00:53:23,948
of muddles along

1162
00:53:24,068 --> 00:53:26,908
and has difficulty. I mean, you're right,

1163
00:53:26,948 --> 00:53:29,864
it did carry some of the things. The second half of the episode

1164
00:53:29,896 --> 00:53:32,440
definitely carried things forward as far as the narrative with Alan

1165
00:53:32,504 --> 00:53:34,264
and, and Omni Man.

1166
00:53:34,416 --> 00:53:37,032
>> Sarah : Oh, can I say, can I say, are you talking

1167
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,736
about Alan the alien

1168
00:53:39,832 --> 00:53:42,216
locked down but not locked out.

1169
00:53:42,352 --> 00:53:43,148
>> Will: Yep.

1170
00:53:43,968 --> 00:53:46,952
>> Sarah : Or no, I'm sorry, but not out. That's the

1171
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,944
full title. I, I do love how they always

1172
00:53:50,016 --> 00:53:51,912
managed to do that with Alan.

1173
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:52,392
>> Will: Yeah.

1174
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,112
>> Sarah : The first time we were introduced for them, it was

1175
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,828
like.

1176
00:53:56,518 --> 00:53:59,278
>> Will: Yeah. Because, I will say I, when the

1177
00:53:59,318 --> 00:54:02,270
episode transitioned to that storyline, then I was

1178
00:54:02,294 --> 00:54:05,214
like, okay, I meant. And I think it's just, I just really enjoyed

1179
00:54:05,246 --> 00:54:08,060
this. Alan and Seth Rogen and and just

1180
00:54:08,084 --> 00:54:10,604
Omni man in general. I mean those are just two very

1181
00:54:10,676 --> 00:54:12,888
interesting characters. Whereas Mark.

1182
00:54:13,748 --> 00:54:15,288
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1183
00:54:16,068 --> 00:54:18,968
>> Sarah : See, I, I'm, I'm not

1184
00:54:19,008 --> 00:54:21,702
on the same page about that. I thought the whole

1185
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:24,326
episode and it's just because it was all

1186
00:54:24,382 --> 00:54:27,254
fighting. Like I normally really

1187
00:54:27,326 --> 00:54:30,182
like Alan and all of the, like this

1188
00:54:30,270 --> 00:54:33,062
few moments we got of him and Nolan talking

1189
00:54:33,110 --> 00:54:35,702
or him and battle beast talking

1190
00:54:35,830 --> 00:54:38,486
were funny. But I was

1191
00:54:38,542 --> 00:54:40,822
disengaged for probably 90

1192
00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:43,878
of like this whole episode because it was all

1193
00:54:43,918 --> 00:54:44,502
fun.

1194
00:54:44,670 --> 00:54:47,510
>> Will: Yeah. Oh, yeah. I, I, that I was too.

1195
00:54:47,614 --> 00:54:50,470
I mean, to be honest, I mean, even though I got, I was more engaged

1196
00:54:50,534 --> 00:54:53,138
than I was with the first part because

1197
00:54:53,518 --> 00:54:56,178
I, I don't know, I just the, the,

1198
00:54:56,478 --> 00:54:59,142
the whole time travel stuff. I don't know,

1199
00:54:59,150 --> 00:55:01,510
maybe, maybe I'm just overtime travel and

1200
00:55:01,694 --> 00:55:03,858
stories and stuff at this point.

1201
00:55:05,118 --> 00:55:06,918
>> Sarah : Flash ptsd.

1202
00:55:07,078 --> 00:55:09,718
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, totally,

1203
00:55:09,798 --> 00:55:12,484
totally. but, yeah, but I think it was

1204
00:55:12,524 --> 00:55:15,214
this, I think the parts that you just said

1205
00:55:15,254 --> 00:55:18,254
were engaging. Yeah. I mean, after a while, the fight stuff, I did

1206
00:55:18,294 --> 00:55:20,718
sort of like. Okay, I get it. Yeah.

1207
00:55:20,846 --> 00:55:21,514
But,

1208
00:55:21,874 --> 00:55:24,382
>> Sarah : Yeah, it's not, I mean,

1209
00:55:24,438 --> 00:55:27,214
it's, it depends on the stakes

1210
00:55:27,294 --> 00:55:29,918
of it all. And, and at this point we're

1211
00:55:29,966 --> 00:55:32,750
fighting nameless vulture

1212
00:55:32,782 --> 00:55:35,646
mites and we know, we

1213
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:38,536
know he's gonna kill them mortal and they stretch it out

1214
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:40,100
five minutes too long.

1215
00:55:40,252 --> 00:55:40,772
>> Will: Yeah.

1216
00:55:40,868 --> 00:55:43,684
>> Sarah : And it's just, it's just, it's just when

1217
00:55:43,724 --> 00:55:46,500
the, when you know the outcome and there's no stakes,

1218
00:55:46,612 --> 00:55:49,424
it's kind of like, okay, let's just get through this.

1219
00:55:49,694 --> 00:55:52,662
but we do find out at the end of the episode

1220
00:55:52,838 --> 00:55:55,638
that Nolan reveals that there are only 50 pure

1221
00:55:55,686 --> 00:55:58,474
blooded vulture mites in the galaxy.

1222
00:55:59,294 --> 00:56:02,006
And that's the key to their defeat.

1223
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:04,902
So they, they do come out with

1224
00:56:04,958 --> 00:56:07,902
that little beast piece of Knowledge. Which leads

1225
00:56:07,918 --> 00:56:10,814
us into the fifth episode. This was supposed to be

1226
00:56:10,854 --> 00:56:13,454
easy. And I think the problem with this

1227
00:56:13,494 --> 00:56:16,414
episode is again, a lot of

1228
00:56:16,454 --> 00:56:18,794
fighting, a lot of action, and also

1229
00:56:19,974 --> 00:56:22,222
a lot of time spent with

1230
00:56:22,278 --> 00:56:24,990
storylines and people I could care less

1231
00:56:25,062 --> 00:56:25,674
about.

1232
00:56:26,214 --> 00:56:28,878
>> Will: Yeah, I, Yeah, I mean the whole Martin,

1233
00:56:28,926 --> 00:56:31,634
multi, Paul and duplicate.

1234
00:56:33,204 --> 00:56:35,692
yeah, I just. Yeah,

1235
00:56:35,868 --> 00:56:38,054
yeah. It. Yeah.

1236
00:56:38,524 --> 00:56:41,412
>> Sarah : and you. And in the background you just have

1237
00:56:41,468 --> 00:56:44,116
Eve and Mark who I can

1238
00:56:44,140 --> 00:56:46,836
appreciate the self acknowledging now. These two

1239
00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:49,492
characters are moving way too fast, but

1240
00:56:49,628 --> 00:56:52,524
whatever. Remember,

1241
00:56:52,926 --> 00:56:55,534
when he was with Amber five minutes ago? Yeah,

1242
00:56:55,614 --> 00:56:58,594
yeah. And she is confronted and it's like,

1243
00:56:58,694 --> 00:57:01,450
why is everybody being way so cool about this whole

1244
00:57:01,482 --> 00:57:04,128
thing? but between

1245
00:57:04,216 --> 00:57:06,944
that and Titan and, and

1246
00:57:06,984 --> 00:57:09,936
trying to understand the order, I'm just like, I don't

1247
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,912
care. I have no. I,

1248
00:57:13,048 --> 00:57:14,964
I don't know why we're here.

1249
00:57:15,934 --> 00:57:18,486
but. And I have a lot less

1250
00:57:18,590 --> 00:57:20,790
about like nuggets to.

1251
00:57:20,942 --> 00:57:23,766
To. There

1252
00:57:23,790 --> 00:57:26,714
was a moment with Oliver and bullies.

1253
00:57:27,294 --> 00:57:30,198
>> Will: I did like that part. I did like. Yeah, yeah.

1254
00:57:30,326 --> 00:57:33,142
That was probably the most engaged I was with, with the episode was

1255
00:57:33,198 --> 00:57:35,714
because I was especially given,

1256
00:57:36,014 --> 00:57:38,406
you know, Mark keeping an eye on him and,

1257
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:41,286
and, and worried that he

1258
00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:43,974
was gonna, you know, just pummel these guys.

1259
00:57:44,054 --> 00:57:46,854
But I was like, you know. You know, sometimes you just

1260
00:57:46,894 --> 00:57:49,510
don't need to like have, you know, just gratuitous

1261
00:57:49,542 --> 00:57:52,296
violence. You can just like embarrass these guys and they.

1262
00:57:52,390 --> 00:57:53,784
It worked perfectly.

1263
00:57:54,364 --> 00:57:56,660
>> Sarah : Yeah. He's. He's still a kid.

1264
00:57:56,772 --> 00:57:57,924
>> Will: He's still a kid. Yeah.

1265
00:57:58,004 --> 00:58:00,532
>> Sarah : So. And he, he is learning

1266
00:58:00,628 --> 00:58:03,620
lessons. It's just. I mean,

1267
00:58:03,772 --> 00:58:06,224
he. Yeah. So

1268
00:58:06,924 --> 00:58:09,780
we have that moment. But that, that, that's about

1269
00:58:09,852 --> 00:58:12,804
it. I mean I, I

1270
00:58:12,844 --> 00:58:15,700
just. I think with

1271
00:58:15,772 --> 00:58:18,554
the Invincible story,

1272
00:58:18,854 --> 00:58:21,234
it's, it's very interesting

1273
00:58:21,654 --> 00:58:24,434
how now we're,

1274
00:58:25,254 --> 00:58:27,950
we're like episode five of season

1275
00:58:28,022 --> 00:58:30,910
three in. And we've watched everything before

1276
00:58:30,982 --> 00:58:33,982
this that I, I feel

1277
00:58:34,038 --> 00:58:36,910
like there are aspects of this show that

1278
00:58:36,982 --> 00:58:39,950
really work. I'm fully engaged and fully

1279
00:58:39,982 --> 00:58:42,898
all in. and then there are

1280
00:58:42,986 --> 00:58:45,874
aspects that. Because I've never been on

1281
00:58:45,914 --> 00:58:48,764
board with. Yeah, yeah. I

1282
00:58:48,804 --> 00:58:50,344
just always check out

1283
00:58:51,604 --> 00:58:54,476
like, like you can expect a season of Invincible

1284
00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:57,420
is gonna have a, A Guardian episode. And I'm

1285
00:58:57,452 --> 00:58:59,916
like, that's not an episode I'm gonna enjoy.

1286
00:59:00,060 --> 00:59:03,036
>> Will: Yeah, I will, yeah, I will

1287
00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:05,134
say I did enjoy the When,

1288
00:59:07,684 --> 00:59:10,446
yeah, Rex and What's. Okay, I can't. I keep

1289
00:59:10,470 --> 00:59:13,406
forgetting her name that they were, you know, they

1290
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:15,984
were making. They were grocery shopping and

1291
00:59:16,704 --> 00:59:17,544
>> Sarah : Race.

1292
00:59:17,704 --> 00:59:18,504
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

1293
00:59:18,584 --> 00:59:19,704
>> Sarah : Rex and Ray.

1294
00:59:19,864 --> 00:59:22,164
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, I did like. Yeah, so

1295
00:59:22,784 --> 00:59:25,400
that was Actually, parts of the things that

1296
00:59:25,472 --> 00:59:28,296
did stand out for me because it was just like, you know,

1297
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,128
they're adjusting to life away from Cecil

1298
00:59:31,256 --> 00:59:34,174
and. And but also Rex, you know,

1299
00:59:34,214 --> 00:59:36,954
showing some real character growth here. And

1300
00:59:38,084 --> 00:59:40,940
And so those moments I thought were very, very sweet

1301
00:59:40,972 --> 00:59:43,890
actually. you know, less grading than Mark and

1302
00:59:43,962 --> 00:59:46,082
Eve at this point as far as relationships.

1303
00:59:46,098 --> 00:59:48,734
>> Sarah : And Yeah, I

1304
00:59:48,774 --> 00:59:51,422
just. They

1305
00:59:51,478 --> 00:59:54,286
screwed. I'm sorry. They dropped the ball with the whole

1306
00:59:54,350 --> 00:59:57,166
even markup at all. It should have been a will they

1307
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:59,822
won't they this season. And

1308
00:59:59,958 --> 01:00:02,766
I thought we were gonna get that. And we got immediately, yes, we

1309
01:00:02,790 --> 01:00:05,470
will. And I'm like, oh, I don't

1310
01:00:05,582 --> 01:00:08,494
want that. I want the. I want the will they

1311
01:00:08,534 --> 01:00:11,214
won't they of it all. I need to be rooting. I

1312
01:00:11,254 --> 01:00:13,724
can't like, I need to understand. Understand.

1313
01:00:14,024 --> 01:00:16,992
>> Will: Yeah. And. And maybe it's true to the source material. I don't

1314
01:00:17,008 --> 01:00:19,760
know. I haven't. I have not read the Invincible comic, so I don't

1315
01:00:19,792 --> 01:00:22,786
know. we'll freely admit that. So. But yeah, but

1316
01:00:22,810 --> 01:00:25,202
you're right. I mean, it. Would it have that will they want

1317
01:00:25,258 --> 01:00:28,050
they. To your. To your point earlier, it just seems

1318
01:00:28,082 --> 01:00:30,898
like, you know, just a minute ago he was with Amber and now all of a

1319
01:00:30,906 --> 01:00:33,534
sudden he's like head over he. And he and

1320
01:00:33,834 --> 01:00:36,620
Eve are like head over hills. And I mean they've always. It's

1321
01:00:36,652 --> 01:00:39,624
always that. That tension's always been there.

1322
01:00:41,154 --> 01:00:44,058
>> Sarah : But you gotta give respect to your previous

1323
01:00:44,146 --> 01:00:45,454
relationship.

1324
01:00:46,274 --> 01:00:49,098
>> Will: Yeah. And I do try to address it, I guess in I

1325
01:00:49,106 --> 01:00:51,674
guess episode two or three. But,

1326
01:00:52,154 --> 01:00:55,074
you know, with Amber moving on and. And all that.

1327
01:00:55,114 --> 01:00:55,934
But still.

1328
01:00:56,314 --> 01:00:59,298
>> Sarah : Yeah, it's. It's so weird. It's. It's still weird

1329
01:00:59,346 --> 01:01:02,178
for. For a viewer. It's. It's a bit of a mind.

1330
01:01:02,346 --> 01:01:04,414
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But.

1331
01:01:05,044 --> 01:01:07,988
Yeah. But, you know, overall, like I said before, you know,

1332
01:01:08,076 --> 01:01:11,044
there's. I. To your

1333
01:01:11,084 --> 01:01:14,002
point, there's things about. I like about this series.

1334
01:01:14,058 --> 01:01:17,054
There's things that, that, When I was

1335
01:01:17,094 --> 01:01:19,854
watching these two episodes, I was like, oh, yeah. I remember why we

1336
01:01:19,894 --> 01:01:22,798
like sort of put the. Put the show on the shelf

1337
01:01:22,846 --> 01:01:25,342
for a while last

1338
01:01:25,398 --> 01:01:28,286
year. Yeah. And this was two episodes that

1339
01:01:28,310 --> 01:01:29,680
really captured it. Yeah.

1340
01:01:29,862 --> 01:01:32,540
>> Sarah : Only to return and really

1341
01:01:32,612 --> 01:01:35,228
enjoy like the next few episodes.

1342
01:01:35,356 --> 01:01:37,584
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1343
01:01:38,724 --> 01:01:41,468
>> Sarah : So it's just. It's just par for the course. It's.

1344
01:01:41,516 --> 01:01:44,144
It's not a perfect season of television.

1345
01:01:44,574 --> 01:01:47,544
but, I. Hopefully it'll come return to

1346
01:01:47,584 --> 01:01:50,488
form next week. We'll only be covering one episode

1347
01:01:50,536 --> 01:01:52,644
because we're only one episode Behind,

1348
01:01:53,264 --> 01:01:53,840
Right.

1349
01:01:53,952 --> 01:01:55,564
>> Will: Or are we still behind

1350
01:01:56,744 --> 01:01:59,600
tonight's episode? And then. Yeah, I think, yeah,

1351
01:01:59,632 --> 01:02:02,504
so we'll be just one week behind because, yeah, last week we,

1352
01:02:02,826 --> 01:02:05,260
we had the, Captain and Captain America.

1353
01:02:05,292 --> 01:02:08,236
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, actually. Well, next

1354
01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:10,624
week we'll have Daredevil and.

1355
01:02:10,624 --> 01:02:13,564
>> Sarah : Ah, next week we'll have Daredevil. My God,

1356
01:02:13,724 --> 01:02:16,556
we're here. The nurse. Ari, did you hear

1357
01:02:16,580 --> 01:02:19,256
that? So, so maybe we will, maybe

1358
01:02:19,420 --> 01:02:22,224
we will skip Invincible next week to set up

1359
01:02:22,264 --> 01:02:23,803
a 2,

1360
01:02:24,092 --> 01:02:27,088
2 episode review because that seems to

1361
01:02:27,096 --> 01:02:29,444
be working for us with Invincible,

1362
01:02:30,294 --> 01:02:33,054
and focus on finishing paradise and

1363
01:02:33,094 --> 01:02:36,062
starting Daredevil. I don't

1364
01:02:36,078 --> 01:02:38,074
know what I'm more excited for,

1365
01:02:38,854 --> 01:02:41,838
to watch Daredevil or to listen

1366
01:02:41,886 --> 01:02:44,542
to Will's thoughts about Daredevil because he

1367
01:02:44,598 --> 01:02:46,314
never watched the first.

1368
01:02:46,884 --> 01:02:49,724
>> Will: Yes, yes. This is new for me.

1369
01:02:49,764 --> 01:02:52,648
This is, this, this will be like, I mean I, I watched a

1370
01:02:52,656 --> 01:02:55,624
hand, like maybe a handful, maybe one or two episodes of the first

1371
01:02:55,664 --> 01:02:58,184
season of Daredevil on Netflix and that's it. So

1372
01:02:58,224 --> 01:03:00,984
it's so basically,

1373
01:03:01,064 --> 01:03:03,800
you know, so basically I'm going into this as a Daredevil

1374
01:03:03,832 --> 01:03:05,288
version as far as TV show.

1375
01:03:05,376 --> 01:03:08,344
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just, let's keep those, those

1376
01:03:08,384 --> 01:03:11,138
episodes you did see on the DL. Okay. Let's keep it

1377
01:03:11,256 --> 01:03:14,094
like Virgin. Yeah, yeah. We haven't had,

1378
01:03:14,214 --> 01:03:17,166
we haven't had Will be a Virgin in a while. Ever since the

1379
01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:18,110
last of us.

1380
01:03:18,262 --> 01:03:21,234
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

1381
01:03:21,574 --> 01:03:23,394
And House of the Dragon.

1382
01:03:24,054 --> 01:03:26,074
>> Sarah : Yeah, House of the Dragon too,

1383
01:03:27,574 --> 01:03:30,234
man. Those

1384
01:03:30,534 --> 01:03:33,182
man, Daredevil better deliver because

1385
01:03:33,318 --> 01:03:36,094
those are some hard acts to follow to get you

1386
01:03:36,134 --> 01:03:37,554
invested in those.

1387
01:03:37,734 --> 01:03:40,586
>> Will: Well, I, I, yeah. Yeah. So I

1388
01:03:40,610 --> 01:03:43,094
am going to see what this is all about, so.

1389
01:03:44,114 --> 01:03:44,974
Yep.

1390
01:03:45,634 --> 01:03:48,634
>> Sarah : Well, season two has already been greenlit, right. Yeah,

1391
01:03:48,714 --> 01:03:50,538
yeah, yeah, it's absolutely.

1392
01:03:50,586 --> 01:03:53,354
>> Will: Yeah. I think, I think I was seeing where, Marvel was

1393
01:03:53,394 --> 01:03:56,346
really. I think they were trying to. And it's been green lit. And

1394
01:03:56,370 --> 01:03:59,210
I think there's no like big, big delay

1395
01:03:59,242 --> 01:04:02,094
either. I mean they're gonna, and they just. Next

1396
01:04:02,134 --> 01:04:04,330
year. Yeah, I think they're trying to drop it. Yeah.

1397
01:04:04,462 --> 01:04:07,154
>> Sarah : And they, they announced something I

1398
01:04:07,194 --> 01:04:10,136
saw something about, Punisher is going to make

1399
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,920
a special, like an appearance between

1400
01:04:12,992 --> 01:04:15,044
the two seasons and a special,

1401
01:04:16,244 --> 01:04:18,972
event later this year. So.

1402
01:04:19,108 --> 01:04:21,964
Yeah, John Barnsthal, you got

1403
01:04:22,004 --> 01:04:24,988
to, he got, you got him on the roster. You better

1404
01:04:25,076 --> 01:04:28,016
best be using him. and on that note, Will, why

1405
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,412
don't you tell our listeners where they can find you?

1406
01:04:30,568 --> 01:04:32,804
>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at

1407
01:04:32,844 --> 01:04:35,764
willandpolk W I l l m P O L

1408
01:04:35,804 --> 01:04:36,596
K and.

1409
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:39,444
>> Sarah : You can find me there too at SJ Belmont S J B E L

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01:04:39,484 --> 01:04:42,420
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