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>> Sarah : Greetings, nerds this is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as
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always, is our mister producer, Will Polk. How are you doing tonight,
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will?
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>> Will: Doing much better. How are you doing this evening?
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>> Sarah : I'm doing good.
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You certainly have had a week.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. When we came back from our summer
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hiatus, Sarah shared her Covid story,
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and then I, got. Had my.
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My Covid experience, this past week,
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so that's why we're recording it a little later this week. But,
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yeah, and the funny thing about it, I was going to go get my shot,
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and I test positive the day before.
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>> Sarah : The irony. The irony of it all.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Well, I'm glad you were feeling better.
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>> Will: Yep.
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>> Sarah : I did. We. I did see
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everything that went on this weekend about the
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Emmys.
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>> Will: Yep.
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>> Sarah : and congrats to all of the winners,
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specifically. Shogun just took home
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everything.
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>> Will: Yeah. It was like 18 awards
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total. Yeah, yeah. It was like history
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setting.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Record
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setting sweep. And then the
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Bears season two specifically picked
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up a lot of awards as well, which
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was not surprised by.
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>> Will: Yeah, I think they broke their own record. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I was not surprised by
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that. It will be interesting to see,
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what happens next year with, the season three.
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I don't. I don't expect, but I
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also, you know, sometimes the award
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shows, they have different.
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They perceive things differently,
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and, like,
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I'm sorry, there's not a lot of
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competition going on either.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, I guess I haven't watched hacks.
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I guess hacks actually ended up winning best comedy instead of the
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bear, but, But, yeah, I guess maybe
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that'll be the show that will, become the darling,
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for the, 2025
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Emmys, which will be, I guess, shows that aired between
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June 1 of 2024
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and, I guess may m 31st of 2025.
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>> Sarah : Okay. Okay.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : I did watch, the perfect
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couple. Have you heard about this show?
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>> Will: I have not.
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>> Sarah : It was for about a week because I think it's only
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been on Netflix for about two weeks now, maybe three.
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>> Will: Okay. Okay.
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>> Sarah : But I kept hearing that people say things,
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and then I found out it was six episodes, and I'm like,
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okay, I do say,
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I don't understand. I
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there. I don't know if it's me
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or if people just hype me up, but
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I'm just. I'm watching this, and it's fine.
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I mean, Cole Kidman doesn't sign on a project
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for nothing, so. She was there.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's that one.
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>> Will: Okay.
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>> Sarah : Dakota, fanning too in there as
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well.
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Shiver, love shiver.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : and there. It's. It's fun,
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it's fine. It's a murder mystery.
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Like, who killed this person
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night before a wedding?
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And then money and bribery,
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all of that's involved. it just.
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It just. I don't understand why
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people were, like, so addicted to
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this. I don't get it. To me, it's
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just an average,
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average murder mystery show.
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Like, you've Scene it 20 times before. They
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didn't really do anything that spectacular. The
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characters are honestly not that
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interesting. and there's not a lot of
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depth to them. Ah. So
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I just, But I finished it and.
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Yeah, I just.
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And I mean,
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I don't know what it is, but I feel like
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people just. I get it in my head
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that this is supposed be the next best
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thing and. And it never
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is.
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And it'll be interesting because this week, we
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got to talk about next week.
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Agatha long and the penguin. So I'm like,
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oh, God, I don't know what's going on.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I've
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Scene some commentary on Agatha. I think. I think
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people are. I've Scene some
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mixed. Mixed. Mostly
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positive, but I have some. I've Scene some. Some
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lukewarm response as well.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah,
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I try. I'm trying not to pay attention
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to any of it, honestly, about either
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of the show. I saw a thumbnail about the
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penguin where. Which made me raise an eyebrow.
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So I'm not. I'm not sure. And the
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same with the joker, Joker two coming up in
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a few weeks as well. Like, there's a lot of mixed
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things happening. I'm like, I don't
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need this.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, well, just.
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Yeah, same, same. yeah, I'm like, I'm kind
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of, you know, I knew whenever I was sick, I think I texted
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you, I was just like, And maybe I was like, I
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don't know if it's the illness beginner, if it's just me, or if it's just
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where I am with. With things in the genre
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right now. But I was like, are you excited about Agatha
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or the penguin? because I think I said I was more
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excited for penguin than Agatha, but.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, but you've been saying that since. I don't know.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. So I guess. Okay, good. So it wasn't a
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Covid induced,
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>> Sarah : No, no. Yeah.
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>> Will: You know, your brain. Covid brain will make you do funny things. So,
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>> Sarah : Well, the way you said it, like, it was
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the first time you had ever expressed that
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opinion.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.
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>> Sarah : Like, I said, I forgot you. Information
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for any.
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>> Will: Like, I said, I. For. Yeah, like I said, Covid brain, you know, you
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forget stuff I couldn't remember. M so,
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Yeah, but, But I will. But
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if you're listening to us, we're, recording on a Thursday.
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So the Penguin premieres actually tonight.
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And, And then. And I think they'll rear. It'll
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re air again on Sunday. But then,
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moving forward, after the premiere this week, it will
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air every Sunday night, at, I think, the 09:00
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timeframe. So.
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>> Sarah : So the premiere episode drops
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tonight, only to be rear re aired
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on Sunday, only then to that
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become its regular schedule for the rest of the
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season.
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>> Will: Yep. Yep. Correct.
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>> Sarah : Okay. Yeah,
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I don't like,
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Oh, that just
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reminds me about a
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grievance. I have definitely aired on this podcast
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in the previous months. Netflix,
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is whole. Let's drop half the season,
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have people wait two months only or a
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month only to drop the next half. Okay.
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Emily in Paris. The second half of the season
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dropped far superior than
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the first staff. even though. Even
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though I'm going to tell you people who have been watching
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Emily in Paris, I don't
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know what the actor who plays
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Gabrielle did, but he must have pissed off a
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writer, because I have never not liked
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that character so much as in
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this season.
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And I am going to be so upset when
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Emily and Gabrielle end up together.
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I'm going to be Madden,
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because it's just so classic. Like,
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they finally get together only to be ripped
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apart. But it's also not
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like, the understanding they.
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They totally made him into a jackass.
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I'm like, man. And there's this
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other guy, and I'm like, oh, he's definitely a lot
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cooler. So I
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just. I mean, I don't.
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Emily in Paris should not have been split up in two
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parts. Granted,
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I don't know if I would have been as high on the
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second half had I had to also, like,
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concurrently, suffer through or
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not concurrently, but have watched the whole
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thing. But I'm not sure. I mean,
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maybe.
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>> Will: Maybe it will work. you know, maybe, you know something? As we
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mentioned this before, sometimes it actually works in the
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show's favor. Just break them up. Whereas
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others. It, would just been better just to just drop them all at
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once.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I. Emily in
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Paris, I will die on this hill and
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say it's a binge. It's,
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like, straight through. No need. Does not. It's not
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complicated what's going on in that show.
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It's not intense. Okay. Okay.
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Supacell Supacell is a little bit more intense.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : I don't. I don't know why
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we only get six episodes.
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And I definitely think I would have enjoyed this season
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as a whole if we had not watched
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it like two episodes at a time. I
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don't. I didn't need the break, to break it
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up to, because it's. It's more
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intense. It's not that complicated of what's
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going on. but I also
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just think that. And I understand why.
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Money, I mean, it's a new ip, all of that
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stuff, so. But it was just a
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really, really
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short season only for it to
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like, just get started right when it ends.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah.
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>> Will: For sure. For sure. Yeah. The ending.
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>> Will: So I. You know, I actually. I'm actually glad we broke
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it up, because I don't. What he said. I
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mean, yes, as far as the premise, it is pretty
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straightforward, as far with
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the genre storyline and
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everything. But for me, I like the fact that
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we broke it up because it gave me a chance to really
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breathe and really get. To get
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to know these characters because, you know, each
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episode was.
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Except for the final episode, you know, it was
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named after one of the principal five people
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who make up the. Make up the team.
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And I think what for
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me, what I really liked about this, about this
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season was getting to know these characters.
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Getting to know. Yes. They, you know,
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obviously learn it going along with
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them on the journey as far as exploring their
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powers, but. But also getting. But
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for me, what really helped me, like, enjoy
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this series so much was just getting to know these
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characters as people. And so
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whenever we do get the finale
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of, the season, you
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know, I'm invested in them so that
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whenever the events
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all play out as they. As they do,
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I'm invested in what happens to them.
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So to me, that was what
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I, really liked about this season and breaking it
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up and going it two at a time.
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>> Sarah : Right, right. so that
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brings us to episode five, Rodney.
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When spud ends up in the hospital, Rodney has a change of
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heart. Michael decides to tell Deon everything, but first he has
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to find the others.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, we pick up,
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right, right there at the crazy's
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drug, lab, and
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all may have ensues after taser shoots the
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gun. Yep. Yeah. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Because all our. All our
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heroes are all there together except
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for Michael because, you know, at the end of. Yeah, because
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he's, you know, he got pulled away because his mom's and
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had had an attack. So. Sickle
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cell attack. So, so. But we
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know we get the whole. The whole. The whole thing sort
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of breaks down. and
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then, you know, Andre steals the safe.
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know, gets the sisters managed to get out.
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to go to the hospital, visits bud.
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>> Sarah : Yep. And then only
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to leave and then to go visit his mom.
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life, which. Or lack thereof, home life,
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considering his stepdad, appears to be a
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racist. yeah.
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>> Will: Yeah. I mean, that's where. And that really gets to my point about, like, getting to know
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these characters, because we. We saw,
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you know, he was a light skinned brother, and we already
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figured, you know, more likely than not, he was biracial. But, you know, we do
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get confirmation of that. And then it's the whole
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dynamic with his mother. And, you know, she.
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You know, he. He really is trying to reach out to her. And we learned
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that he left home 16 to go live in hostel because
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of his stepfather and stuff. And.
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I don't think they. Did they mention anything about his sexual father
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or if they were to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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which, I mean, clearly, you know, that's where obviously, the sickle. Where
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he got the sickle cell gene, you know, from his
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father. M but, yeah, it
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was just, you know, really, you know,
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Roddy was just at his wits end because his best friend is, like,
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laid up, and, you know, she was, you know,
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he was trying to get a, you know,
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little lifeline, and she just. Just wouldn't do
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it.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. and then he tries to get a
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lifeline from Michael, and Michael has other
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priorities.
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talk about something
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that caught me off guard and I found very
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unsettling. And
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reflecting on it now, because I
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remember how I felt in the moment watching it.
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it's just. It's. It's the scene where Taser,
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and crew confront a girl
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who we met in the first episode.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : And they. They pieced together that she set
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them up for that. That brawl that they had
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with the sixers, and. And
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everyone's just talking, and then out of nowhere,
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Taser just. Just beats the living
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shit out of her.
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>> Will: I. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : so there's a few things that's going on in my
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mind, because I do.
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genre, there has been male and
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female superheroes, and it's always like, oh, the
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girls can only fight the girls, and then the
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boys can only fight the boys. in this
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scene, though, the girl didn't even have powers.
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And so I don't know if that's why it even was
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more unsettling. But there's
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just something about
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that nature. And then there's another
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scene, between crazy and
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Charlene m. It doesn't go that
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far, but it's like, it's also a
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bit like, okay, I don't. We don't need to
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linger here. Don't
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need to linger. but this one in particular,
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because I did feel like it went on a long time.
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I just.
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I guess I have more questions than I
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do even reaction to it. I
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just. I want to understand why the
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writers chose to do that.
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especially because for me, as a
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viewer, I find it hard
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to forget a scene like that,
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especially involving a
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character who I know ultimately should be a
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hero.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Like, okay, you got some redemption to do because that
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was messed up.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, that. Yeah,
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that one was hard. That was a hard scene for me to watch, too.
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and because, I mean, Taser has
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always been pretty almost
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irredeemable. And to.
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To go and, and just
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assault a woman like that, I mean, it was just a straight up
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assault. yeah. And it was,
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you know, ah, I I know he's
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hurting. I know he
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is,
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dealing with a lot with
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pre, you know, with his grandmother being
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assaulted by crazy and stuff. So I,
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you know, I don't know if he was trying. If he, you know, because she's
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like part of the crazy's gang, she's
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weaker. I mean, there was just a lot of
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subtext in that and really get into some issues of
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domestic violence, quite frankly, that, You
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know, maybe the imbalance. Imbalance of
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power of,
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>> Sarah : Well, maybe, but I
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mean. I mean, is it domestic violence
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because they aren't together?
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>> Will: Well, no, but I mean, if. I guess more just the.
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I do think, I mean, it was a power
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imbalance there.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah.
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>> Will: you know, not only man and woman, but also
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suit versus just a normal person.
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>> Sarah : Right.
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>> Will: and so I don't know if the. Right.
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I don't know if rap man was trying to make a commentary about,
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like, there's
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multiple injustices going on here. I don't know. I
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just. I was kind of. I was trying to figure out what
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was with that and also with what was going on with Charlene and
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crazy.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Charlene and crazy. I actually. Even though
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I didn't. I didn't want to watch it, and
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I felt like it went on a bit too long. I also
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understood why they were doing that because that was already
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suggested before. I mean, to go back to your
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point, I never found Taser to be
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irredeemable,
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mainly because of his love for his grandma.
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But. But there was. He never did
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anything that I felt like,
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oh, this is a really bad guy. And then I watched that scene. I'm like,
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wait a second. What's. What?
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Huh? I don't. It just
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is very confusing to me.
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and. And I just.
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I felt like there should have
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been more context, like. Like,
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to. Part of the reason why it's
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unsettling is also just. It totally
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goes out. Comes out of nowhere. Like, there was
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no. Nothing that led
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you to believe that that was going to happen. I mean,
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arguably, the. You could go back to the
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first episode and how he, He pulls out the
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gun and shoots. And shoots Michael.
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Right, right. But. But
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I. And so maybe. But then again,
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you also know that Michael has powers or will
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have powers like, you're.
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And maybe that's why it's still so.
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So, I don't know. I mean, you could be right about the power
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imbalance or reasoning, but that, like,
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my takeaway from this show
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almost is I would just want to understand more
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about what led to that decision.
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And in a weird way, it does
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make me curious to see
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how they fix that in the next
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season or how they make amends
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between the viewer and that, or,
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honestly, I say this all the time. Will they
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even acknowledge that that happened? Because
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writers are known to do
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something and it not go well with the
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viewers, and suddenly, like, we're never going to talk about it
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again.
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>> Will: I don't. You know, well, given. Given Crazy's Boyden,
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I mean, they were all like, dude,
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I mean, they. You know, I don't think they'll drop it.
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>> Sarah : You mean Taser?
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>> Will: Tasers?
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, whenever.
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>> Will: Whenever. Yeah, whenever. Taser's boys were like, you never. Whenever
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he. Whenever they. Cause. Even to you being
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caught off guard. They were caught off guard.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, no, that was. That was very clear.
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They. They. And then they continued that
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while questioning, what? What. Why are
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we here staking out this old woman's house?
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Like, what are we gonna do
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here? So many questions. And
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I think, overall, Taser is not cut out
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for this position of power,
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in the gang life. He's made
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that abundantly clear over the past few
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episodes, with some of his decision making.
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but yeah, I think
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unfortunately for this
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episode, it's Rodney's episode. But that
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scene caught me so off guard that I was definitely paying
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more attention to what was going on with Taser
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and, Charlene than I was with Rodney.
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>> Will: Yeah. And also, yeah, and to, also to pick up
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with Charlene and with Sabrina. The
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juxtaposition of their situations in this episode
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because Sabrina finally, she's
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all, she's been doing her best to like
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work hard, do the right thing. And then of
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course, you know, because of her learning her, you know, her
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powers and, you know, causing her to be distracted and of
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course, you know, her. And also her domestic is her
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boyfriend cheating on her and her stuff. And then, you know,
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whenever she did, you know, she had that performance review, she was thinking
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she was getting there to get fired. And then actually, no, they
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were actually going to promote her to head nurse.
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>> Sarah : Because that, yeah,
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I was, I was glad that they inserted that
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scene and that it was all in her head about
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that. Yeah. And that she,
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she does, she, she needed to say
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something sooner about like, I
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can't, I can't work today.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : I have my own disease. I need to
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figure out for the day. I need to take a sick day
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or something. And and then meanwhile,
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Michael,
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he. Classic
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drama and tension happening where he's
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gonna tell Dion. Dion is chasing
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down, more threads, especially
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involved with jasmine. and jasmine's
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parents are giving her some
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breadcrumbs to follow about what's really
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going on. and this all leads to
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Michael Trine almost being able to tell her the
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truth only for Rodney to interrupt and,
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and they gotta go. So very,
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very classic. classic.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Dramatic irony and tension building
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there.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.
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But, you know, I liked, you know, but
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again, pulling all the threads together with
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Theon, you know, finding out more about what, what
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truly happened with Jasmine and, you know, and her
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father. Was it this episode or just the final episode
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where he called her?
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>> Sarah : I don't, I don't remember which one
518
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was. It was. And I want to say it's the second
519
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episode. But, but it
520
00:24:00.588 --> 00:24:03.476
could easily have been the first episode. I
521
00:24:03.484 --> 00:24:06.348
mean, these, these run, all the episodes run
522
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together at a smooth pace. And that's why
523
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I argue that they could be easily binged together.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, no, it was the second episode, I think, where. Because that's
525
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where they get, they learn about the tower, a town. But
526
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I think in this one I think they did. I think they just
527
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wanted Michael to go in there and take,
528
00:24:23.882 --> 00:24:26.808
you know, use his powers to, teleport her out, I think, is
529
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what. What they were. What the ask was
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whenever, Theon was.
531
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Was talking with him there, but,
532
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I don't remember. Yeah, okay.
533
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Okay. Yeah, that was. That was the. Whenever. That was the
534
00:24:41.204 --> 00:24:44.090
one pulling the threads together. and I
535
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think in episode five. And then episode six is where
536
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they, She learns about the, nose
537
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in this one. It wasn't this one. Cause. That's right. They, Yeah.
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I'm sorry. Well, again, they run together. I mean, they do run together. That's
539
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the. That's the benefit. And then at the detriment of, like, you
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know, whenever you binge it and all
541
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six at once or back to back.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, episode six.
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>> Will: well, no, we haven't even talked about Andre and what happens with
544
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him before. We, you know, we got to set that up to make.
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What happened. What happens to him in episode six.
546
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I mean, basically, just the fact that. I mean, I guess the quick thing is
547
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he got the safe, learn said it's empty,
548
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and, I guess he gets beat up. You
549
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know, I guess he wants to find out,
550
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wants to meet up with Michael and the rest of them, but
551
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on the way, the agent, like, runs into him, and, he gets
552
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beat up and taken away in the portal.
553
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>> Sarah : Yeah, that's right. That's right. And they. In
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this episode, we get the seed
555
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planted that the more they use
556
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their powers, the more energy gets
557
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depleted. because Andre, for most of this
558
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episode, is just taking a nap. Yeah, taking a
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nap, which, of course, leads to his son.
560
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M leads to
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his son further joining the gang
562
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crew, as well, much to his demise. So.
563
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So, yeah, yeah, we get. We get that scene. But
564
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you're right. We. We see Andre get taken
565
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and, Taser almost get taken, except
566
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Jasmine, Michael and Rodney stop them. All
567
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right. episode six, Supacell. Taser and Sabrina both
568
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search for crazy. Dion follows up on information
569
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about the missing girl. With powers pushed beyond their limit,
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the five must unite to save the ones they love.
571
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yeah, so. So a lot of this episode
572
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is spent in Jasmine's house. Not
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Jasmine's house.
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>> Will: Sabrina's house.
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>> Sarah : Sabrina's house, yeah.
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>> Will: Which,
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>> Sarah : And. And we just got Michael teleporting all over the
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place. Just
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teleported. I do think that this
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was probably the best episode of the.
581
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Of the show. I think it got stronger
582
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as it went on.
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>> Will: It did.
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>> Sarah : and this is what we really wanted to see, the whole time, we really
585
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wanted to see the five together. we
586
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wanted to understand more about
587
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their nemesis and what was happening.
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a lot of the things we already
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was very clear. I always love
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that. Like, it's pretty obvious
591
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everyone has a parent who has sickle
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cell.
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>> Will: Yep.
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>> Sarah : But no, no, no. We still have to allow the bad
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guy to explain this to us.
596
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which we do learn more about them. We get.
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We get ray, and at the end, we get
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Victoria, who we have met
599
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before. but she's the real person behind the
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foundation.
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>> Will: Mm
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>> Sarah : and, yeah, I.
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Unless there's anything, I just really
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just want to jump down to the big
605
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fight, because, I mean,
606
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it's actually. No, there is one scene that
607
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I do have some. Some things I want to say about. But.
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What were you gonna say?
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>> Will: No, I don't know if. Yeah, I didn't know if
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the one thing that. Before we get to the big fight, I
611
00:28:19.506 --> 00:28:22.380
mean, a couple. You know, just, we learned about what
612
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Jasmine's whole role in this whole operation's been.
613
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I guess she's, you know, she's the healer. I mean, she. That's her,
614
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you know, her super. Her ability has been to,
615
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you know, whenever, we.
616
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We get these. Whenever the
617
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supe agents or whoever get beat
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up, she's there to, like, you know, heal
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them. Heal them. And, And, of course, we do get, you
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know, we do get the whole, like, Andre getting
621
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recruited into the organization
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to. Because, again, they use his financial
623
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status and the fact that he wants, you know, to
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make. Have a great relationship with his son to,
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you know, you. You know, they've been keeping all these folks under surveillance.
626
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And that's the other thing. You know, we get more details, like you said
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about the surveilling and, how the
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powers actually get activated. You know, they may, like,
629
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either they may be active or they may be dormant,
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but they get me, you know, by coming
631
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into interaction with another person who does have a
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Supacell gene, you know, activates it.
633
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So, yeah, so we get, you know, so we
634
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definitely get a lot more context and exposition
635
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about, about the powers and also about the
636
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organization as well.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I wanted
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to talk about the scene between
639
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Dionne and Michael where she finally
640
00:29:39.266 --> 00:29:42.148
learns the truth. this
641
00:29:42.196 --> 00:29:45.172
is some of the best acting I've Scene in the show,
642
00:29:45.268 --> 00:29:47.984
arguably the best acted scene in the show,
643
00:29:48.854 --> 00:29:51.750
specifically from Dion. And it's not just
644
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the actress. it's also just the writing.
645
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I I said this when she first learned about
646
00:29:57.756 --> 00:30:00.428
the powers, like,
647
00:30:00.588 --> 00:30:03.396
now learning about the death. You see her
648
00:30:03.452 --> 00:30:06.452
process it in a very. What
649
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feels to be a very, authentic way.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : and between the writing and the acting, I just
652
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thought that that was really standout. I mean,
653
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overall, a strong point
654
00:30:18.624 --> 00:30:20.900
is Dionne as a character,
655
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because they were able to make her not
656
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whiny, and not,
657
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like, just enough of a damsel in
658
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distress without being
659
00:30:33.128 --> 00:30:35.780
cringy about it. Yeah.
660
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Granted, the longer the episode went on, it became more
661
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cringey.
662
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>> Will: But, yeah, it did fall into some tricks.
663
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She became double benefit all, but, yeah,
664
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yeah, I completely agree with you on that scene. I'm
665
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glad. That was gonna be my other.
666
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That was a highlight for me from the season as well. and
667
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I did, as I was watching that scene, I did think of
668
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you, with the
669
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reaction in our conversation about it earlier,
670
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because it did feel very authentic about what
671
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if someone told you
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00:31:10.270 --> 00:31:12.990
that I've Scene the day that you're gonna die, you know,
673
00:31:13.290 --> 00:31:14.550
how would you react?
674
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and I thought that was very. Ah, yeah.
675
00:31:18.710 --> 00:31:21.670
As you eloquently put it, it was very
676
00:31:21.710 --> 00:31:22.490
well done.
677
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And
678
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now that the strings are all coming
679
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together on this, all this big
680
00:31:31.086 --> 00:31:34.080
thing, we all end up in a town
681
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.106
one way or another. as Sabrina
682
00:31:37.258 --> 00:31:39.586
continues to find out what happened to
683
00:31:39.618 --> 00:31:42.224
Charlene, and Taser wants his
684
00:31:42.272 --> 00:31:44.978
vengeance. I don't really know what Rodney
685
00:31:45.034 --> 00:31:45.710
wants.
686
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>> Will: Rodney wants.
687
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>> Sarah : We're here. I'm doing this. And hopefully
688
00:31:51.538 --> 00:31:52.938
Michael will pay me back.
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>> Will: Yeah, he just wants Michael to, like, set, you know, go back,
690
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set the time right. Just go back in time. The time
691
00:31:59.058 --> 00:32:02.050
to that, spud doesn't get hurt, but,
692
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you know, we all learn about these butterflies.
693
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>> Sarah : So at what point will
694
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m. Were you, like, where.
695
00:32:10.914 --> 00:32:13.914
At what point watching this, these two episodes,
696
00:32:13.970 --> 00:32:15.486
were you thinking to yourself,
697
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crazy must have powers?
698
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>> Will: you know, it actually,
699
00:32:24.956 --> 00:32:27.604
whenever it was revealed, it made sense, but
700
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I never. It didn't really cross my mind, to be honest.
701
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I'll be
702
00:32:34.044 --> 00:32:36.996
honest. I didn't expect him
703
00:32:37.036 --> 00:32:39.996
to have powers, but I
704
00:32:40.036 --> 00:32:42.156
was starting based on some of the
705
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scenes, especially the
706
00:32:45.102 --> 00:32:47.806
awkwardness after the Charlene
707
00:32:47.886 --> 00:32:50.758
scene. Like, I started to be
708
00:32:50.782 --> 00:32:53.538
like, okay, crazy must have some
709
00:32:53.602 --> 00:32:56.522
sort of tie, especially when it's pieced together.
710
00:32:56.674 --> 00:32:59.322
Like, the more the location became
711
00:32:59.394 --> 00:33:02.202
obvious in what we've Scene, it's
712
00:33:02.234 --> 00:33:04.858
like, okay, so does
713
00:33:04.882 --> 00:33:07.650
anybody else find it weird that crazy's,
714
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like, whole operations are, right next
715
00:33:10.528 --> 00:33:11.120
door.
716
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So that's where I thought they were going to
717
00:33:14.264 --> 00:33:17.232
go. I thought that they would just, like, reveal, like, you know, which we do,
718
00:33:17.264 --> 00:33:20.168
you know, just that the fat. He was a part of the
719
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organization, that they were like a front to, like, you know, again,
720
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:26.188
to this bigger, grander, you know,
721
00:33:26.252 --> 00:33:29.028
world of. And, you know, not only in a
722
00:33:29.052 --> 00:33:31.628
systemic. True, you know, in the real world,
723
00:33:31.652 --> 00:33:34.348
systemic issues with racism and whatnot, but also in
724
00:33:34.372 --> 00:33:36.976
this. This south London world
725
00:33:37.516 --> 00:33:39.980
that they've established, too, where there's these
726
00:33:40.028 --> 00:33:42.946
issues, that's where I thought they were going to go.
727
00:33:43.076 --> 00:33:45.772
>> Will: But him also being a.
728
00:33:45.884 --> 00:33:48.828
I guess. What's the. It's like,
729
00:33:48.852 --> 00:33:50.626
was it morph in, x Men?
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>> Sarah : No, no, he's rogue.
731
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>> Will: Yeah, he's rogue. Yeah. Rogue. Excuse me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes
732
00:33:56.382 --> 00:33:57.526
on the other person's powers.
733
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. Temporarily,
734
00:34:00.414 --> 00:34:00.990
though, right?
735
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>> Will: Yeah, right.
736
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>> Sarah : And he only hold one power at a time. I felt like
737
00:34:04.598 --> 00:34:04.830
during.
738
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>> Will: That's what it seemed like.
739
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. They
740
00:34:08.654 --> 00:34:11.518
did. The. The action in this
741
00:34:11.622 --> 00:34:14.326
final episode, was good, good
742
00:34:14.366 --> 00:34:17.126
staging, good direction of choreography.
743
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : you don't.
745
00:34:20.816 --> 00:34:23.798
You don't feel too disoriented, with
746
00:34:23.862 --> 00:34:26.786
where people are coming from and everything.
747
00:34:27.406 --> 00:34:30.276
and you just feel disoriented on
748
00:34:30.316 --> 00:34:33.052
whether or not Dion's in the car or out of the car. Where is
749
00:34:33.084 --> 00:34:35.924
deon? Yeah, but. But that's because
750
00:34:35.980 --> 00:34:38.436
a lot of this is kind of shown
751
00:34:38.516 --> 00:34:40.966
through Michael's, perspective.
752
00:34:42.386 --> 00:34:43.126
and
753
00:34:46.066 --> 00:34:49.002
I don't know why this came to my mind
754
00:34:49.154 --> 00:34:51.906
during a certain sequence in this fight scene.
755
00:34:52.026 --> 00:34:54.866
I mean, I do know why, but I find it funny because
756
00:34:54.906 --> 00:34:57.826
I swear to you, I swear I read the book, but I have
757
00:34:57.866 --> 00:35:00.832
only Scene the movie one time. but I'm just gonna
758
00:35:00.864 --> 00:35:03.248
call it, like, twilight eclipse
759
00:35:03.392 --> 00:35:06.240
or new moon. I think it's new
760
00:35:06.288 --> 00:35:09.030
moon part two. They do something
761
00:35:09.118 --> 00:35:10.266
very similar
762
00:35:13.126 --> 00:35:16.022
where we get. We get the sequence where you
763
00:35:16.054 --> 00:35:18.866
think it all is lost and everyone's dead.
764
00:35:19.106 --> 00:35:22.042
and Michael just rewinds time and makes
765
00:35:22.074 --> 00:35:23.756
it right. only for
766
00:35:24.576 --> 00:35:27.360
it not to go
767
00:35:27.408 --> 00:35:29.146
his way. and so.
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So it's interesting because
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we've been told Dion has three months to
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live and three months has not
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passed. Is she
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dead? So
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I guess to
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question it,
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if you're a writer.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Do you try to undo that?
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>> Will: I don't think you can. I mean, I think the rules that they've established
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in this show makes it. I mean, it's done.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, but. But see, it's. It's weird
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because. So. So the rule is he
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can't bring anyone back to life. Right, right.
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But he did
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because he ran around time, I
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think I.
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>> Will: So
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cuz he, so cuz whenever,
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because the first. Whatever, cuz
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crazy. So Rodney, like, took
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the, got the stuff, the device out of
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crazy's back. Crazy switches around, slits his
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throat, and it slits everyone
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else's throat.
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>> Sarah : Yep. Yep. Because this is super speed.
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>> Will: Yeah. but before, so,
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but before Michael passed away,
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he
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did, he reversed it, so.
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Yeah, but then they contradicted the next scene because
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then that's. Yeah, because, yeah, Deon
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dies. Yeah. What's with the paradox?
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Yeah, I know. They created a paradox.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can only think
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like, Dion is the, the Ben of the
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show.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Ah.
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>> Sarah : Like Peter Parker can't ever undo
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that.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. That's why I joked earlier the uncle Bennett of
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it all, because I guess, you know, maybe
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that's, that's where I did. I was like, I was hoping
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he would, that rat man wouldn't use the
813
00:37:29.686 --> 00:37:32.470
Nexus event trope, but,
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but it looks like they did.
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>> Sarah : Well, I'm not bad at it either, because I
816
00:37:37.542 --> 00:37:40.512
don't, I think it's an, I
817
00:37:40.544 --> 00:37:43.368
don't, I wasn't
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00:37:43.432 --> 00:37:46.032
looking forward to season
819
00:37:46.144 --> 00:37:48.912
two still being about how does Michael
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00:37:48.984 --> 00:37:51.352
prevent Dionne from dying.
821
00:37:51.544 --> 00:37:54.236
Like, yeah, it needed to end.
822
00:37:55.096 --> 00:37:57.664
It was surprising, and I wasn't
823
00:37:57.720 --> 00:37:59.976
expecting it to end like that,
824
00:38:00.136 --> 00:38:02.816
but I, I just wonder if
825
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season two will now be
826
00:38:05.746 --> 00:38:08.666
finding more information about Supacell to take
827
00:38:08.706 --> 00:38:11.674
them down while also trying to figure out
828
00:38:11.690 --> 00:38:14.362
a way to use my powers to
829
00:38:14.474 --> 00:38:17.450
unwrite history. Like, yeah, like,
830
00:38:17.498 --> 00:38:20.178
because, and then we've talked about this before
831
00:38:20.282 --> 00:38:23.146
about how from the
832
00:38:23.186 --> 00:38:26.026
get go, once you realize what Michael's powers
833
00:38:26.066 --> 00:38:29.046
are, the tropes are all over the place.
834
00:38:30.106 --> 00:38:32.874
This isn't our first back to the future
835
00:38:32.970 --> 00:38:33.602
movie.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. And even, even joke about the butterfly effect in
837
00:38:36.642 --> 00:38:39.234
this show, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
838
00:38:39.370 --> 00:38:41.722
yeah. So, but I wonder too,
839
00:38:41.794 --> 00:38:44.586
if, because, I mean, Michael finally
840
00:38:44.626 --> 00:38:47.206
confronting his fear and telling her
841
00:38:48.706 --> 00:38:50.618
what, the future.
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00:38:50.802 --> 00:38:51.056
>> Sarah : Mm.
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00:38:51.666 --> 00:38:54.634
>> Will: You know, maybe that was the, you know, maybe that was the, the
844
00:38:54.690 --> 00:38:57.602
thing that the small, you know. Well, not a small thing,
845
00:38:57.634 --> 00:38:59.926
but maybe that was, that was the, that was the,
846
00:39:00.706 --> 00:39:03.626
he, maybe it wasn't meant for him to tell her what was,
847
00:39:03.706 --> 00:39:06.634
what was going on. So by him
848
00:39:06.810 --> 00:39:09.406
sharing that, it accelerated a timeline.
849
00:39:09.776 --> 00:39:12.684
but to your point, you know, as far as moving ahead, as far
850
00:39:12.700 --> 00:39:14.616
as what the future seasons will hold,
851
00:39:16.356 --> 00:39:19.284
I mean, if, you know. Cause another thing that they mentioned in the
852
00:39:19.300 --> 00:39:22.092
show, too, is, you know, he does have, his
853
00:39:22.124 --> 00:39:24.916
powers, do have limits. Like, for example, he was only
854
00:39:24.956 --> 00:39:27.444
able to do that jump into the future once, he couldn't do it
855
00:39:27.460 --> 00:39:28.016
again.
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00:39:28.406 --> 00:39:29.174
>> Sarah : Right.
857
00:39:29.350 --> 00:39:32.214
>> Will: So maybe. Maybe he used that
858
00:39:32.270 --> 00:39:35.206
one, that one thing, bringing everybody else back that
859
00:39:35.246 --> 00:39:37.706
one time, you know, he can't do it
860
00:39:38.406 --> 00:39:39.466
for her again.
861
00:39:39.846 --> 00:39:41.586
>> Sarah : Right, right.
862
00:39:42.566 --> 00:39:43.306
I
863
00:39:47.646 --> 00:39:50.438
almost feel like they were right
864
00:39:50.622 --> 00:39:53.438
when they were first talking about the butterfly effect and
865
00:39:53.462 --> 00:39:56.096
that it's already happened, because
866
00:39:56.556 --> 00:39:58.916
I didn't get this sense from future
867
00:39:58.996 --> 00:40:00.696
Michael that,
868
00:40:03.186 --> 00:40:05.720
I didn't get the sense that, in his
869
00:40:05.768 --> 00:40:07.996
timeline, he went to the future.
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00:40:08.336 --> 00:40:08.744
>> Will: Right.
871
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:11.472
>> Sarah : Like, I didn't get that sense. Like, oh, I've been
872
00:40:11.504 --> 00:40:12.716
expecting you.
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00:40:13.536 --> 00:40:15.256
>> Will: That's a good point. That's a very good point.
874
00:40:15.376 --> 00:40:18.008
>> Sarah : I feel like it's almost as though. And then him
875
00:40:18.072 --> 00:40:20.956
telling Michael, you need these five people.
876
00:40:21.776 --> 00:40:24.744
And that's what led
877
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.648
to maybe an acceleration where in the original
878
00:40:27.712 --> 00:40:30.376
timeline, there was an extra three months
879
00:40:30.416 --> 00:40:33.392
before these people were
880
00:40:33.424 --> 00:40:36.368
brought together, however, they were. And
881
00:40:36.392 --> 00:40:38.676
then. But now between
882
00:40:39.336 --> 00:40:42.040
Michael knowing he has a timeline
883
00:40:42.168 --> 00:40:44.848
and inadvertently accelerates
884
00:40:44.872 --> 00:40:46.956
it, like, I think, in a way,
885
00:40:47.646 --> 00:40:50.382
what. What both Michaels have yet to realize is
886
00:40:50.414 --> 00:40:53.318
that it doesn't matter if you find them
887
00:40:53.382 --> 00:40:55.826
sooner or later.
888
00:40:56.166 --> 00:40:58.854
Like, she's still. Like, her
889
00:40:58.910 --> 00:41:01.750
destiny is still written. Like, she will
890
00:41:01.798 --> 00:41:04.306
still die, because it's gonna.
891
00:41:05.326 --> 00:41:07.998
You're, gonna have this. This big event
892
00:41:08.102 --> 00:41:10.906
happen, and she's gonna be a casualty.
893
00:41:11.386 --> 00:41:13.366
so, so
894
00:41:15.986 --> 00:41:18.930
definitely, I can understand, and I
895
00:41:18.938 --> 00:41:21.682
was kind of expecting this, why, after
896
00:41:21.754 --> 00:41:24.618
only six episodes, and to finally have things,
897
00:41:24.682 --> 00:41:27.538
like, really kick in in
898
00:41:27.562 --> 00:41:30.290
this final episode, why people were talking about
899
00:41:30.338 --> 00:41:33.136
it. because it does
900
00:41:33.296 --> 00:41:35.756
pique your interest in, like, okay,
901
00:41:36.096 --> 00:41:38.672
I want to see where this goes, what decisions the
902
00:41:38.704 --> 00:41:41.634
writers make and where they take these
903
00:41:41.690 --> 00:41:42.566
characters,
904
00:41:44.466 --> 00:41:47.202
for. For a few different reasons. And we've talked about them
905
00:41:47.234 --> 00:41:47.786
already.
906
00:41:47.946 --> 00:41:48.546
>> Will: Yeah.
907
00:41:48.546 --> 00:41:51.148
>> Sarah : so. But. But it's also. It's also
908
00:41:51.252 --> 00:41:53.852
treading lightly just because we're in trope
909
00:41:53.884 --> 00:41:54.532
area.
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00:41:54.724 --> 00:41:55.896
>> Will: Yeah, it is.
911
00:41:57.116 --> 00:41:58.348
>> Sarah : Tropes ahead.
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00:41:58.532 --> 00:42:00.696
>> Will: Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah,
913
00:42:01.636 --> 00:42:04.446
yeah, yeah. Good. Oh, yeah, I have. I really.
914
00:42:04.486 --> 00:42:07.168
Yeah. I think you raised m. You
915
00:42:07.192 --> 00:42:10.166
summed up, why I think this series
916
00:42:10.706 --> 00:42:13.594
ended, this, season in particular, now that we know that
917
00:42:13.682 --> 00:42:16.594
we are confirmed to have a season two, why it ended so well
918
00:42:16.642 --> 00:42:19.586
and why I'm glad it did not get canceled, because. Yeah, there
919
00:42:19.618 --> 00:42:22.610
is a lot there. as we discussed,
920
00:42:22.650 --> 00:42:25.492
that, you know, that definitely makes me want to come back for a second
921
00:42:25.540 --> 00:42:26.128
season.
922
00:42:26.868 --> 00:42:29.724
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Curious. Curious is
923
00:42:29.756 --> 00:42:32.368
a good thing to have when
924
00:42:32.408 --> 00:42:34.970
you're, ending a season of
925
00:42:35.034 --> 00:42:37.664
television. and especially when you're
926
00:42:37.696 --> 00:42:40.344
guaranteed to get some sort of answer with
927
00:42:40.416 --> 00:42:43.264
season two. I don't like it, but I'm like,
928
00:42:43.376 --> 00:42:46.024
oh, God. Now that I'm curious
929
00:42:46.096 --> 00:42:48.848
about what will happen, I hope they don't cancel it.
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00:42:48.968 --> 00:42:51.912
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. Because I know that's. That's. That's my biggest whole. That's my
931
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.720
biggest fear with a Netflix show is just like, I don't want to get too
932
00:42:54.744 --> 00:42:57.628
invested because they're gonna, you know, it's a 50 50 chance,
933
00:42:57.928 --> 00:43:00.768
but I'm glad that our. I'm glad that the odds were
934
00:43:00.808 --> 00:43:02.842
in super sales favor.
935
00:43:03.010 --> 00:43:05.946
>> Sarah : Yeah, definitely. All
936
00:43:06.002 --> 00:43:08.978
right, well, on, that note, will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can
937
00:43:09.002 --> 00:43:09.834
find you?
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00:43:09.970 --> 00:43:12.556
>> Will: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at, Willmpolk.
939
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Willmmpolk.
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00:43:15.620 --> 00:43:18.612
>> Sarah : And you can find me there, too, at sjbelmont. SJ b E l
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00:43:18.636 --> 00:43:21.524
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00:43:21.572 --> 00:43:24.452
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