Greetings, nerds! Join the dynamic duo, Sarah Belmont and Will Polk, for an engaging episode of Scene N Nerd. In this episode, we kick things off with a casual chat about the whirlwind that was the month of May, including jury duty escapades and work...
Greetings, nerds! Join the dynamic duo, Sarah Belmont and Will Polk, for an engaging episode of Scene N Nerd. In this episode, we kick things off with a casual chat about the whirlwind that was the month of May, including jury duty escapades and work travel adventures. Will shares his experience visiting Norman Reedus's restaurant in Lexington, Kentucky, which leads us to discuss The Walking Dead and its cultural impact. (0:00)
Next, we dive into the newly released documentary on Black Twitter, which is now available on Hulu. We discuss its origins, key highlights, and the significant cultural moments it captures. (4:08)
Transitioning from Black Twitter to the latest updates on the Masters of the Universe live-action movie, Sarah and Will discuss the casting changes and what to expect from the upcoming Amazon production. (7:20)
Sarah gives us the lowdown on the Vanderpump Rules Season 11 reunion, sharing insights on the shifting dynamics among the cast and speculating on the future of the series. (13:10)
Finally, we delve into the last three episodes of X-Men '97. From the reveal of Bastion's true identity to the philosophical debates between Charles and Magneto, we break down the action, character developments, and the setup for Season 2. (21:40)
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>> Sarah : Greetings, nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont. And
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with me, as always, is our mister producer, Will polk. How are you doing
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tonight, Will?
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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this evening?
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>> Sarah : Good. It's our last recording of May.
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>> Will: It is. I know this month is,
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like, zip by.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. I don't know. It's been a weird month.
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Yeah. April just happened,
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and then the. I almost can break
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up this month into two sections because I had that
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whole jury duty fiasco go on
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top of other things. So I'm just
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like. I'm like, well, we've made it to the finish line.
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Who knows what June, Will.
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>> Will: Yeah, true, true. Yeah, I guess I
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had. I had some work travel this month,
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so, which, you know, it was only like a week or so ago,
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but it seems like it was much.
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It was further back. But the cool thing about it when,
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for our walking dead fans, I was.
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I was in Lexington, Kentucky, and normaritus,
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has a restaurant there. And, so
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I was actually, I think I sent you some pictures of it.
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yes. and, so, yeah, if you're
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ever like Kentucky, go. Go check out his, his
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restaurant. It's like norm. Oh, gosh. I'm blank on the name now,
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but, but he and another co partner,
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their names are part of it. And,
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yeah, you should go check it out. It's
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got all kind of walking dead, like, memorabilia and
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stuff and all throughout, all throughout the
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place.
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>> Sarah : So now, okay, correct me if I'm
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wrong. You have you. Did you watch the
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walking dead or did you not?
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>> Will: I did not. I just. But, you know, but it's sort of
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like, you know, like one of the topics on our, on our run sheet
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tonight, it was one of those things that due,
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to, like, black Twitter. I didn't have to
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watch it because I was like, oh, I kind of was able to,
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like, follow it, sort of like them thrones.
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So kind of like, I was kind of familiar with it without actually watching
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it.
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>> Sarah : Right, right. I mean.
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I mean, when it first came out,
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there was like, everyone was talking about it every,
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those first three to four seasons, and I
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was late. I think I came on board
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right before the fourth season started
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airing, and then I think I dropped off
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around the 7th.
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and then everyone talks about how, like, oh, if you had just
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waited, there were a few seasons later when it
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got, like, better again. and
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I never. And I always had it in back of my mind. Oh, I should return.
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Never did. But I swear, when I first
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got into that, I
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rewatched the first three seasons, three
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to four seasons, over and over and
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over again, to the point where, like, I knew lines and
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all this stuff. It was. It was pretty bad.
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but. But I don't know. There was just.
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It was a moment, and I think it just lasted
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way too long. Yeah. Despite
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it, people saying it gets better at the end. It's just like. Yeah,
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but still there. There's
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so much other stuff going on that it's.
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It's really hard to maintain a long running show
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like that these days.
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>> Will: It really is. Yeah. And the
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restaurants, called Nic and Norman's, his business partners, Nic And
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then, of course, Norman is the.
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>> Sarah : Nic and Norman. That sounds.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Such a
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1960s show, Nic
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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>> Will: I guess they have. I guess it's a little franchise. And, Yeah.
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So, Yeah, so the. One of the, like I said, if you're ever likes to
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Kentucky, just right down the street from Rep
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arena, for Kentucky Wildcat fans.
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>> Sarah : So, I mean, then let's just use this
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topic to lead into that topic of,
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you've written on here, and I know nothing about
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this. they are releasing on Hulu, a
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documentary on Black Twitter.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. It's actually was. It was first premiered at south
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by Southwest, and then it, dropped on
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Hulu this month, may 9, I want to
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say. And I had heard about it, but,
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I was listening to a podcast
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yesterday, and they were talking
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about it on that show, actually, they were interviewing
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the, princess,
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Perry, Penny, who also, did
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girlfriends, and,
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also the,
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but, he was a showrunner of a couple shows, girlfriends one,
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and then, another one just dropped. Just finished on
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HBO. But, it's insecure.
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And, Yeah, so it was on
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there, and I was watching it. And that's part of reason
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why I'm tired this evening is because I got. I got sucked into the
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vortex of, like, watching. It's a three part series, and of
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course, you know, so many things like dim
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thrones and,
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you know, just sort of went through the evolution of
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how black culture.
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Culture and just american culture
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in general and how Twitter grew
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with a lot of things that
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originated in black Twitter. And so, of course, black Twitter
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covers a lot of range of things from the, you know, funny
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memes to like, you know, the crying Jordan, which I
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used quite a bit back in the day to,
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you know, of course, the hashtags, you know, like the
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various, you know, black, black girl magic and
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oscars, so white and, and so,
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so the first part was that the second part really gets us some of the
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more political things as far as, you know, Black lives
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Matter and the George Floyd, issue from
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2020 and other things like that. So
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it was just a really, really cool documentary. And like I said, I got,
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I got sucked in because it was just, ah, you know, it's
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very, it's on Hulu now. Go check it out.
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You'll, you'll definitely enjoy it, especially when you see
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we, when you watch it, it's sort of like, it's a truly
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a cool time capsule of, like, when Twitter was
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fun, right, versus the dumpster
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fire that it is now. but, but also,
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but the documentary was also inspired by an
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article written by, Jason Parham, who is m,
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who wrote a story for wired a few years ago
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about Black Twitter. And, so it's
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just taking that. And a lot of the people who originated
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some of the hashtags and various memes and things that,
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people use all the time, were interviewed, in this
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documentary as well. So it's pretty cool. Go check it out.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Sounds pretty
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cool. especially if it can get you sucked
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in. Yeah,
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I'm missing out on those kind of things these days.
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white boy.
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my first question though, before I deep dive into
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this, project or this piece of news,
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is that the
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live action masters of the universe movie, is this
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the same movie that a few years ago it was going out
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that Noah Centineo was, was cast as
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lead?
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>> Will: Yep, same one.
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>> Sarah : So it's the same. So it's not, he's not
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replacing, Nicholas Galat.
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Galateens. Galazine.
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Galazine. I always have to remember how to pronounce it
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because Ann Hathaway Press, during press
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with the idea of, you came up with a
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jingle that she talked about and she rhymed
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his last name with magazine. Ah,
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yeah. And she, she
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also included the anecdote that she, she
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sang it to him one day and he's like, I never thought about
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that because he's always
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had to correct people. So, so, yeah, you
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just think about how it rhymes with
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magazine. So, gal. Galazine. Gaussian. but
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I remember that this on a t, but I don't
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know, I don't know, because he. He
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is like, if you had told me
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Noah dropped out and they replaced him with
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Nicholas, I would be like, that makes perfect sense
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because at this rate, the number of
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movies, like, straight to streaming movies too, that
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this man has been in over the
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last year or two. And I guess
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not all straight to see, streaming because he was in the movie
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bottoms as well, that came out last year in
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theaters.
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he just is all over the place and he's getting that
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burst that Noah got a few
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years back when everyone was diehard
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over the. All the boys. I loved,
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series on Netflix, and then he suddenly
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became Netflix's it boy.
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not to all the boys I love.
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And Netflix was like, oh, we see how it
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works. But. But Nicholas, he
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also. I don't know if he's gonna have that
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same path because he's not
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doing, like, his roles
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are very different all over the
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place. Cause he's also on.
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He's also on. I wanna say it's a star series
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right now with, Julianne Moore.
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>> Sarah : and it's. And it's, victorian,
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I think, like Henry. And it's very
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gay.
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>> Will: Okay.
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>> Sarah : I just know that. I just know that's very. And. And
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there's this whole relationship, but, but, yeah, so.
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So the bit of news that I, like,
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divulge, all of Nicholas is like his
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IMDb. I am not on that page
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all the time. I just. He just came out
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of nowhere for me. And suddenly there's all
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this stuff. but he, has recently
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been cast, I guess, to join Noah
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in the live action movie masters of
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the universe.
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>> Will: Yes. Yeah. So. And this live
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action film. So the Netflix version
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died away. So Noah is no longer
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happening. So Nicholas will
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be. Is, going to be he man slash prince
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item in this?
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>> Sarah : Just told me that Noah was part of
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this.
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>> Will: No, no, you just asked if that was the same one. And I was
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like, it was the same. It was
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a live action version that was going to be produced
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by Netflix, but this one is going to be produced
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by Amazon, and it's going to be,
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released theatrically in 20. They're aiming for
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2026.
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>> Sarah : Okay, so listeners, like, after
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you're done listening to this episode,
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just tweet at ah will or
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me, who,
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like, are you on my side of this debate or are
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you his? Because I. I
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don't think I asked the question wrong, but I don't
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know if I was given the right answer.
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>> Will: No, no. I just assumed that you thought
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maybe I should have clarified at that point that it was the
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Netflix one, but I didn't want to interrupt you.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, but. Okay, so. But the
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net. Okay, so are there
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are, there two movies or one movie?
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gone.
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>> Sarah : So. So there was a movie there.
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with Noah that is now died, and
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now MGM, which go
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figure, because Nicholas is now,
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Amazon's it boy.
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He. He is, He is doing
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been cast as he man for the masters of the universe.
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>> Will: And the reason why I thought I. The only reason why I put this on here
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is because you mentioned the idea of you,
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>> Sarah : Oh, I know you put it on here. I'm not. I'm not
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questioning it being on here. I'm
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just. I'm like, I love how you let
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me go on, like, this four minute tirade
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and. And it turned out I completely
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misunderstood what was happening and
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then. And I was enjoying it.
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>> Will: I was enjoying it.
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>> Sarah : Well, I know, because this is what you want.
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You want me to, like, read these things and it's clearly, I
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don't know anything these days.
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I did finish one thing this week, which
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shouldn't be a shocker to anybody, but it was vanderpump
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rules. Season eleven. Oh. Aired
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its, ah, third part of the
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reunion last night.
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and
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it's just so funny to me how,
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public opinion changes so quickly.
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and it's just interesting. The favorites
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of last year are not necessarily the favorites of
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this year. But. No, I'm not. I'm not also
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not suggesting that Tom Sandoval
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is. Is the favorite. No, no, no.
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>> Will: Okay. Yeah. So did he rehabilitate himself?
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>> Sarah : Okay, they tried.
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>> Will: Okay.
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>> Sarah : But the big thing was Ariana is
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smart and she knew what. What
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was going on. and so she
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didn't play ball. But what she
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did not calculate was
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that her friends from last year,
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her like. Or the people who, were supporting her
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during the breakup and everything, all of the girls
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will suddenly would look at her with
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jealousy and annoyance
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and just be like, no, no, no, we do
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this. We talk to our exes,
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we put our air, our dirty laundry. You have
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to. But.
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like it is an Al. It is
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algorithm driven. So I'm
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already a fan on Team Ariana, so
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my algorithm will only send me stuff
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like that is in support of her.
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But I have yet to see anything
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where people disagree.
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I mean, they disagree to some things. Like,
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she should have watched the season, but I also
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understand why she didn't. So, like, it is
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what it is.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : So. But. But I'm also.
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how all of her. Her actions
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over the course of the season, from what I can
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tell, majority of the audience are on her side
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and which. Which is just interesting
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how that
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alienates her from majority,
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of her cast. So. So.
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But the word on the street now is because
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they're not picking up cameras anytime soon, they
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typically would starting in June.
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that. That. And the way it
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ends, it's kind of like, okay, so is this the
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last, like, is this really the series
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finale?
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>> Sarah : and. And. But I don't. I
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don't think so. I think. I think they would have
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made it much more clearer that it
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was.
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>> Will: Oh, yeah.
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>> Sarah : I think they are just letting. Because.
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Because Ariana has some
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projects in the works right now because she's doing
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Love island, and then she's going back to Broadway
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to do another stint on Chicago.
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>> Will: Okay.
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>> Sarah : because earlier this year she was there, and she
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did, like, record breaking
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performances for, like, a
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long running Broadway play to suddenly be brought
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in as lead and then, like,
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break records. It's like, whoa.
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that stuff to calm down. And then we're
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gonna do, You haven't seen these guys
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in a while, but here's what they're up
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to. But I don't. And then
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kind of get a feel as if, like,
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is the audience willing to continue with
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this group of quote unquote friends? Or. It's like,
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no, it's too obvious these days that these
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people, they may know each other, they may pop
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into each other's lives, but they are
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definitely not the group of friends we were
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introduced to, like, back in season
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one.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : And it's not just because of
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the. The drama,
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and the deceit and all of that. I think it's honestly
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because the premise of the show
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started as these people all work in a
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restaurant. Well, you work together,
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of course you're gonna spend so much time together.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : They don't all work in the same place anymore,
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so you really have to.
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to suddenly, become real
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life friends.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : So I just. I think. I think it'll
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be interesting because Bravo's never
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one to, like, kill a revenue
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stream. But then again, has been
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a lot of, this dislike for how this
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season unfolded. And,
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just. Just the. The
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obvious. The. The.
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The obvious tv making that
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was occurring that we hadn't seen in previous
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seasons.
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>> Will: M. Yeah. I will say I did fall off
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this season because I started out watching it,
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and then I think, to your point, it did
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get that script. It did. Even though
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it's supposed to be unscripted and everything, it did start to
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feel a little, I don't know, still.
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And I just. Yeah, I never. I never got back on the
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track.
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>> Sarah : Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was. It's. Which I
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knew. I knew going into it. It's never gonna be what,
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season ₩10. Because season ten was
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just a, very rare
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lightning in the bottle moment for reality
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television.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Where you're rewatching something,
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knowing something that occurs months later,
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and then trying to find the
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pieces that's like, oh,
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well, why wasn't like. It
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was. It was a version of clue.
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It was. It was like, who did
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it? How did this happen? And. And they
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had all of the pieces because they had all this
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footage. So. So it's
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never going to be that again.
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but anyways, so
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I just wanted to put that out there in case anybody
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who was wondering, because, you know, our
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previous discussions about the show. What? I'm a long
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die hard fan. I've been.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, this time last year, yeah, we were. We
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were deep and, deep in Vanderpump.
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>> Sarah : And I just want to make sure listeners realize, like,
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I do not. When will suddenly
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watches something that I say I'm watching.
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He. He just. I never ask
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him, okay. He just wants
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to be included. He gets Fomo
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so easily.
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>> Will: I. I do.
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Well, see, yeah. you know, you know, to. Our earlier conversation is even.
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It's like you see things kind of trending and, you know, but the
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water cooler talk, and it's just like, I feel like I've been
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missing the party, so.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, but it's so funny to me
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because you remind me of my dad, except my dad,
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he never. He'll never
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actually watch the things. And nine times out of ten,
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I'll actually preface when I bring up, something I'm
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watching Tim, and say, I know you're never going to watch
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this. Actually, I don't want you to watch it, but I have to just explain
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to you what is happening,
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and then he'll be all interested,
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and he may or may not go and watch it again. Nine
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times out of ten, he will not watch it. And,
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the rare case that he does, he'll come back to me and
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say, it was just more interesting when you were
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explaining. And I'm like,
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well, technically, yes, because I also
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like, no show
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goes through extended periods of time
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at high intensity. It's really
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hard to maintain that. So there's peaks and
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valleys. So. But when you're
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explaining and trying to get somebody to understand,
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like, something that was mind blowing, you're gonna
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only pick the. The peaks to
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tell them about.
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>> Will: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
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yeah.
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I know we're gonna talk about X Men here, but it's sort of like our
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discussion about it last week with episode five.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, that was a
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really good discussion. And I think it's very,
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relevant as we start to get into
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the list, the last three
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episodes of X Men 97,
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which are the final episodes of this season.
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but I
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just. You know, it's a curse and blessing
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to have an episode
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where it just sticks out
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and later episodes reference
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it. You just. You're like. And I
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think I explained this, talked, about
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this during our top ten last year when I was talking about
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our top five tv shows where I brought up succession.
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I'm like, succession is number three on my list.
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I'm pretty sure it was number three. It could have been number two, but
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I'm. No, I think last of us was number two.
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>> Will: Yeah, last of us number two. And the bear was number one.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And. And you were
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surprised by it and I. Well, a. You were
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surprised because you had no idea what my number one was.
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like, I had to put it at number three because. Was it a good
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season? Yes. Was
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there. There was one
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episode, though, that stuck out
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to the point where, yeah, all the other
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episodes can be good, but they're not. Like, that
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one peaked so high that you
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can't say that the overall season was,
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like, consistent because it's like, no, you
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had. You went from good to, oh,
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my God, that. That should be shown
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in. In film school
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to. To good. Which,
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It's not like there was a bad episode, which a
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lot of seasons have, where it's like,
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what was episode four that I strongly like?
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Jubilee birthday episode of X Men.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.
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>> Sarah : I'm like, no, more commonly, you have a
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really bad episode that kind of weighs down
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your average. And I think for X Men
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97, because of
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the repercussions, but also because
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of just the overall
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storytelling that occurred in episode five, it
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is such a peak that.
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That it's really hard to go
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into these last three episodes and not
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compare and also not just be
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like, I wish this would hit a little bit harder
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for me. Like it did in episode five.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would
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agree with that, I mean, these. And, I'm glad we
515
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structured our watch the way
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that we did to have these to go ahead since it was
517
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designed to be a three part finale.
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and, and I'm glad we stuck to
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that, as far as watching them in a bunch.
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but you're right. I mean, I think episode ten, just to
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jump to, just to further your
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point, did.
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Yeah, I mean, it was solid. I mean, this was
524
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a solid season overall. I mean,
525
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but, I can't, you know,
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we've watched lots of shows and over the
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years, and I will say I
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leave season one of X Men 97 feeling
529
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very satisfied. it, it
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met expectations
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and in some ways it exceeded expectations because I
532
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was watching it from, you know,
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whenever we first started talking about the show, you know, I
534
00:24:31.483 --> 00:24:34.405
definitely had the bits of nostalgia, and
535
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thinking about this show, but it took the
536
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nostalgia and then added to it,
537
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you know, being something with something fresh and
538
00:24:44.013 --> 00:24:46.785
different. And, and I, and I think
539
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these last three episodes really
540
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captured not only the fallout of,
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what happened in episode five with Genosha,
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but, it did do
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the job of hitting the landing, but
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also doing a good springboard to things for season
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two.
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>> Sarah : Right, right. And it all goes back to
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episode eight. It just starts off
548
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tolerances, extinction part one,
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which the next three episodes, you get part one, part
550
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two, part three. And I agree, like, the
551
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overall, how we ended up viewing this
552
00:25:22.765 --> 00:25:25.509
entire season, I think was only to our
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benefit as much as we were talking last week
554
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about how those four episodes, it was a roller
555
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coaster. It
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helped us get to though the,
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the smooth ending, so to speak.
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I'm just trying to figure out what happens in the
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first part.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, basically we, you know, one of
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the things that whenever we were, we were what? We
562
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got a question answered. Who was Bastion?
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Yeah, because I wasn't familiar with it, but
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I will say, you know, so we do get
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the, we get the
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grand plan. We get as far as who the true
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big bad is. It wasn't Mister sinister,
568
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but it was Batman. Bastian
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Sebastian, is real name.
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And we learned that what I
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liked about his origin story, it was like,
572
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yes, he's a mutant himself,
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but he also,
574
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also is, you know, create some prime
575
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sentinels who, and affect them with
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the, you know, the virus that sentinel,
577
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Mister Sentinel came up with. Mister sinister came up
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with, and, you know, to create these ultimate,
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these ultimate weapons that the X Men can't, you
580
00:26:45.227 --> 00:26:47.663
know, can't defeat because,
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you know, they're, they're you know, they're not the mental
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mute mental sentinels that we're so used to seeing, but
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these are, you know, people who, some who
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volunteered and some who were unwittingly,
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created, you know, in his hometown. and his own
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mother.
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>> Sarah : Basically created human sentinels.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Because he infected the same virus that gets
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infected. That Nathan gets infected with.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
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he. And you're right. Like, it was
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interesting, the further it went on, to
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realize that he was mutant, too,
595
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because he can, basically control
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electronics, computers,
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but he's not Magneto. But it's kind of
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another version of Magneto, if you think about it,
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which
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I keep thinking about that tweet you sent me earlier
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this week about someone pointing out the
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ten or the five, like,
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00:27:50.435 --> 00:27:52.455
m almost always storylines.
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of. And it's just like,
605
00:27:56.013 --> 00:27:58.997
yeah. And, and I think maybe
606
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that's where. I don't know
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why, but, and I've listened
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00:28:04.733 --> 00:28:07.709
to people talk about this show, like, do full reviews
609
00:28:07.741 --> 00:28:09.917
now that I've seen the final three
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episodes. And a lot of people are on your
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00:28:12.845 --> 00:28:15.597
side, will, and. Which I'm not
612
00:28:15.645 --> 00:28:18.555
surprised by because, I don't know, I still have
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yet to articulate or pinpoint exactly
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why. As much as I
615
00:28:24.499 --> 00:28:27.337
like the nostalgia, and can
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appreciate things and aspects about this
617
00:28:30.233 --> 00:28:33.009
show, I still have to be honest. And it.
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And nothing hit me the same
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way where. Where
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I'm finding, like, I have to have people talk about it
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and be like, oh, I never thought about it that way.
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Or, I don't know, it just. It just
623
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didn't. I guess, in a
624
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weird way, I'm kind of reluctant to say this,
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00:28:53.221 --> 00:28:56.093
but in a weird way, I'm just like, for whatever reason, I did
626
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not find that watching this show to be fun.
627
00:29:00.013 --> 00:29:01.193
No. Why?
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>> Will: Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
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>> Sarah : I, don't know. I think a part of it is just because
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even though this is the original
631
00:29:10.407 --> 00:29:12.539
series aired in 97,
632
00:29:13.219 --> 00:29:15.763
there has been so much x Men content
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00:29:15.891 --> 00:29:18.279
since then. That's been live action.
634
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And, and for the most part, I mean,
635
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up until, like, the Phoenix saga,
636
00:29:26.139 --> 00:29:29.083
I definitely stopped after that. I
637
00:29:29.091 --> 00:29:31.995
was like, no, there's no way I'm doing that. I know that's just going to
638
00:29:32.011 --> 00:29:34.987
be bad, but. So, so maybe it's just
639
00:29:35.027 --> 00:29:37.739
a little bit of burnt out on these
640
00:29:37.803 --> 00:29:39.999
characters and also just the
641
00:29:40.183 --> 00:29:41.623
storylines.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I mean,
643
00:29:44.775 --> 00:29:47.547
that's a very fair point. And two, I mean,
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00:29:48.087 --> 00:29:51.055
the X Men, it is an allegory.
645
00:29:51.111 --> 00:29:53.799
I mean, with some of the things that they're dealing with, you know,
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00:29:53.823 --> 00:29:56.543
within the prejudice. Because, I mean, for example, in
647
00:29:56.615 --> 00:29:58.787
episode eight, I mean, we're seeing it. You know, we see,
648
00:29:59.383 --> 00:30:01.083
when Magneto is,
649
00:30:02.143 --> 00:30:04.437
captured there and, you know, they.
650
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They. It is. They do like, show
651
00:30:07.473 --> 00:30:10.377
us his n*** tattoo from when he was in
652
00:30:10.385 --> 00:30:12.693
the concentration camp. So to get to his background
653
00:30:13.673 --> 00:30:16.505
and the whole genocide thing, I mean,
654
00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:19.209
it's, you know, this is not. This is not your kid's X
655
00:30:19.241 --> 00:30:21.001
Men as far as you know.
656
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>> Sarah : Well, no, but there was so much of that in
657
00:30:24.025 --> 00:30:25.521
X Men first class.
658
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>> Will: True that.
659
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>> Sarah : When I, When I was watching those scenes, my
660
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mind went back to that movie.
661
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>> Will: Yeah, and maybe that's your.
662
00:30:32.767 --> 00:30:35.631
That's a good point that you raised there earlier about being
663
00:30:35.687 --> 00:30:38.313
burnt out, man. I think. But
664
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because I was too. I mean, I haven't. I mean, I did get
665
00:30:41.613 --> 00:30:44.309
burnout with X men myself
666
00:30:44.421 --> 00:30:45.993
and sort. And,
667
00:30:47.143 --> 00:30:49.839
you know, so even though whenever we saw that
668
00:30:49.871 --> 00:30:51.563
this series was coming,
669
00:30:52.693 --> 00:30:55.679
you know, I was excited for it. But at the same time,
670
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you know, I think we both collectively decided to, like, let's just stick
671
00:30:58.719 --> 00:31:01.719
the plan. We don't need to, like, shift. Course, we'll get to it after we get
672
00:31:01.751 --> 00:31:04.695
through, you know, the things that we were watching earlier this year.
673
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.589
So, not because
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we didn't want, you know, for. For, you know, like. Yeah. And.
675
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And so. But I think this
676
00:31:12.693 --> 00:31:15.645
episode, you know, I did like. I did
677
00:31:15.669 --> 00:31:18.637
like the way episode eight sort of, just sort of started to pull some of
678
00:31:18.645 --> 00:31:21.619
the threads together, you know, especially how I,
679
00:31:21.571 --> 00:31:24.273
can't remember her name, but the. The,
680
00:31:26.057 --> 00:31:29.043
woman, who, was supposedly the ally. But then, of
681
00:31:29.067 --> 00:31:31.595
course, she was like the, you know, the
682
00:31:31.723 --> 00:31:33.751
unwitting collaborator to.
683
00:31:34.411 --> 00:31:36.987
>> Sarah : There was her. And then there was the news
684
00:31:37.059 --> 00:31:40.043
person who was flirting with Beast, who turned
685
00:31:40.067 --> 00:31:42.651
out to be one of them. So, I mean,
686
00:31:42.811 --> 00:31:45.747
I know who you're talking about, and I'm sure our listeners who
687
00:31:45.779 --> 00:31:48.299
watch the show do, too. about the
688
00:31:48.363 --> 00:31:51.215
unwilling, Ally, who
689
00:31:51.231 --> 00:31:53.427
we've seen throughout the season, too.
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00:31:54.867 --> 00:31:57.843
yeah, I like all of that. I did get
691
00:31:57.875 --> 00:32:00.687
a little bit, and it was weird.
692
00:32:00.643 --> 00:32:03.643
and you're going to hate this because it's one of your least
693
00:32:03.683 --> 00:32:06.235
favorite episodes we've ever covered on this show.
694
00:32:06.379 --> 00:32:08.971
But I had a weird flashback to that zombie
695
00:32:09.027 --> 00:32:10.703
episode in the flash
696
00:32:11.773 --> 00:32:13.893
when everyone started turning into
697
00:32:13.973 --> 00:32:15.109
sentinels.
698
00:32:15.301 --> 00:32:16.229
>> Will: Oh, yeah.
699
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>> Sarah : I just had this, like, weird, like, oh, my
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God,
701
00:32:23.573 --> 00:32:26.301
my mind went there for some reason and I
702
00:32:26.357 --> 00:32:28.989
barely watched that episode. And you turned it off.
703
00:32:29.141 --> 00:32:30.563
>> Will: I did. I, did.
704
00:32:30.863 --> 00:32:33.279
>> Sarah : Yeah. So.
705
00:32:33.471 --> 00:32:36.159
But it was. It was a
706
00:32:36.191 --> 00:32:39.043
very well structured, like,
707
00:32:40.263 --> 00:32:42.791
real dedicated episode
708
00:32:42.887 --> 00:32:43.523
to,
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00:32:45.343 --> 00:32:47.683
breaking down the villain
710
00:32:48.023 --> 00:32:50.839
only for him to. I
711
00:32:50.871 --> 00:32:53.551
felt like, because
712
00:32:53.687 --> 00:32:56.063
there's always two villains. Because if
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00:32:56.103 --> 00:32:59.015
Magneto's there, he'll always be a
714
00:32:59.039 --> 00:32:59.683
villain.
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>> Will: Right, right.
716
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>> Sarah : A frenemy, if you will. It's
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00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.624
just. It's just Magneto.
718
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So. So then they were able to
719
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really turn their attention in episode nine
720
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to making sure we.
721
00:33:15.304 --> 00:33:17.960
We realize how much of a threat still
722
00:33:18.016 --> 00:33:20.408
Magneto is and how all of these
723
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.812
events are making him
724
00:33:23.552 --> 00:33:26.488
turn against what he originally
725
00:33:26.560 --> 00:33:29.208
came to the X Men, to
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00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.885
be, essentially.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And to your
728
00:33:33.901 --> 00:33:35.873
point, I mean, they do set. You know, they do.
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00:33:37.213 --> 00:33:39.861
Well, it was one of those, like, he was like that. He was a hero. He
730
00:33:39.877 --> 00:33:42.757
was. He's truly. He's a villain, but also,
731
00:33:42.805 --> 00:33:45.805
in some regards, some weird anti hero, too, because it's like
732
00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:48.709
Magneto was right. And, you know, he gets into, again, the whole
733
00:33:48.741 --> 00:33:51.725
philosophical debate between, you know, Charles
734
00:33:51.789 --> 00:33:54.229
and Eric as far as which path to
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00:33:54.261 --> 00:33:57.029
go and and and
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00:33:57.181 --> 00:34:00.109
as the way they set this thing up.
737
00:34:00.141 --> 00:34:03.141
Yeah. You know, it's like. And I
738
00:34:03.157 --> 00:34:05.913
have to say, I have to admit, I was kind of like, you know,
739
00:34:06.533 --> 00:34:08.877
Eric wasn't wrong about what he was thinking
740
00:34:08.925 --> 00:34:09.589
here.
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>> Sarah : No. No. And and I think that's always
742
00:34:12.805 --> 00:34:15.445
why, despite how it's
743
00:34:15.509 --> 00:34:18.365
overplayed, been overdone. And
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00:34:18.389 --> 00:34:20.353
we've seen it so many times before,
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00:34:21.013 --> 00:34:24.013
the core. At the
746
00:34:24.053 --> 00:34:26.621
core of the X Men is
747
00:34:26.717 --> 00:34:29.613
the philosophical differences between
748
00:34:29.693 --> 00:34:31.313
Charles and Magneto.
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00:34:33.573 --> 00:34:36.551
And you can't deny it. and the more you understand
750
00:34:36.647 --> 00:34:38.803
their friendship, the more you understand
751
00:34:39.503 --> 00:34:42.391
how they become enemies. And then also, at
752
00:34:42.407 --> 00:34:45.343
the end of the day, how they will
753
00:34:45.383 --> 00:34:47.935
always be each other's biggest adversaries.
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00:34:47.999 --> 00:34:49.583
Because, like,
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00:34:50.643 --> 00:34:53.139
as much hate and
756
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annoyance there is, there's also also this love.
757
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Because they were friends first.
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>> Will: Yeah.
759
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>> Sarah : and I'm sure, like, there's fan fiction.
760
00:35:01.375 --> 00:35:04.087
Okay. They were friends first.
761
00:35:04.151 --> 00:35:07.127
Yeah. I know. I can read between the lines. I
762
00:35:07.191 --> 00:35:07.995
get it.
763
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but so, so.
764
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And I think. I think they did a good. Well
765
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or a good job. Man, I can't talk right now.
766
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They did a good job in,
767
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making the viewers see
768
00:35:23.975 --> 00:35:26.927
that because they purposely didn't
769
00:35:26.991 --> 00:35:29.759
have Professor X in, like, the
770
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first six episodes.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
772
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>> Sarah : So you really got to
773
00:35:36.103 --> 00:35:37.555
see a different side,
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to Magneto,
775
00:35:44.271 --> 00:35:46.847
much like the X Men themselves did.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Which. And maybe it would be. Maybe it would have
778
00:35:50.807 --> 00:35:53.719
been a little bit more interesting had it not just been
779
00:35:53.775 --> 00:35:56.257
rogue and starboy.
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00:35:57.405 --> 00:35:58.561
yeah, yeah.
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Side with Magneto, when he
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00:36:04.851 --> 00:36:07.581
decides that. Well, and
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make Nino's defense like, he also,
784
00:36:11.287 --> 00:36:13.471
like, what other choice was there?
785
00:36:13.931 --> 00:36:16.787
Okay? Like, they were. They
786
00:36:16.819 --> 00:36:19.699
were going down. Going down pretty quickly. So he pulled
787
00:36:19.715 --> 00:36:22.551
the plug. Okay? He had to. He had to pull the plug.
788
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And. And so. And so I get it. He could have
789
00:36:26.019 --> 00:36:28.835
turned it back on, but he. A bit
790
00:36:28.883 --> 00:36:29.671
stubborn.
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>> Will: Just a little bit. Just a little bit.
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>> Sarah : I mean, he was right.
793
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>> Will: Yeah. He was right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yes.
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00:36:37.037 --> 00:36:39.989
Yeah. Been more telling y'all for years.
795
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And then finally he was like, y'all f***** around.
796
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You found out.
797
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>> Sarah : Right? Right. and. And
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it's. And I mean,
799
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you have Magneto, who. Who
800
00:36:53.601 --> 00:36:56.273
basically wants to
801
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uplift the mutants,
802
00:36:59.109 --> 00:37:01.813
despite humans,
803
00:37:02.109 --> 00:37:05.073
and views humans as lesser. But that's
804
00:37:05.113 --> 00:37:07.809
not. And as similar as it may seem,
805
00:37:07.961 --> 00:37:10.921
that's not necessarily the same philosophy that is going
806
00:37:10.977 --> 00:37:13.613
on with Bastia. As he himself.
807
00:37:14.393 --> 00:37:16.893
He's more like, no,
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00:37:17.553 --> 00:37:19.753
how do I make humans the
809
00:37:19.793 --> 00:37:22.689
superior race? Like, how
810
00:37:22.721 --> 00:37:25.529
do. And in a way, he just built
811
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an army of himself.
812
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So. So in a way, he pulled a
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fallout.
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Pulled a fallout, if you will. and
815
00:37:37.047 --> 00:37:39.887
just. And just wanted to create more like him.
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00:37:39.983 --> 00:37:42.375
So it was. It was a
817
00:37:42.407 --> 00:37:45.287
similar ideology. But that
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00:37:45.343 --> 00:37:47.955
one difference between, how.
819
00:37:48.067 --> 00:37:50.459
How, quote unquote whatever
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coexistence means in
821
00:37:53.207 --> 00:37:56.177
these, but he just wanted to make
822
00:37:56.233 --> 00:37:58.889
everyone like him so that.
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00:37:59.049 --> 00:38:01.793
So that, like, quote unquote humans,
824
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which would really be turned into sentinels, would be
825
00:38:04.793 --> 00:38:07.229
superior than even mutants.
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because at this rate, mutants are out.
827
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Gonna start outnumbering,
828
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humans.
829
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.
831
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>> Will: yeah. I mean, I think that's a really good summation of, like,
832
00:38:21.329 --> 00:38:23.109
episode nine.
833
00:38:23.125 --> 00:38:26.085
you know, of course, we do get some other things that did
834
00:38:26.125 --> 00:38:29.021
happen in the episode, of course, and sprinkled all
835
00:38:29.053 --> 00:38:31.551
throughout all three of these. We were getting some,
836
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you know, cameos and easter, you know, of
837
00:38:35.449 --> 00:38:38.321
various other, you know, various marvel characters,
838
00:38:38.393 --> 00:38:39.971
which, again, also helped to,
839
00:38:42.465 --> 00:38:45.405
sure, how big this world is.
840
00:38:47.475 --> 00:38:50.341
but also, we do
841
00:38:50.373 --> 00:38:53.285
get two critical things happen, of course, storm
842
00:38:53.325 --> 00:38:55.265
is back. She gets reunited with the team.
843
00:38:57.561 --> 00:39:00.491
and of course, at the end there, we do see
844
00:39:00.831 --> 00:39:01.851
magneto,
845
00:39:03.661 --> 00:39:05.357
rip in the. At the,
846
00:39:05.861 --> 00:39:08.769
wolverines. Ah. At the. At the knee. I
847
00:39:08.785 --> 00:39:11.721
can't. I always get that. I can never pronounce that word.
848
00:39:11.881 --> 00:39:14.783
But, this is skeleton out of him. And,
849
00:39:14.777 --> 00:39:17.703
putting him in a critical condition. So, which was.
850
00:39:17.895 --> 00:39:20.809
Which was, you know, inspired by one of the events
851
00:39:20.833 --> 00:39:23.721
in the comics. And then, of course, also, we just got to just very
852
00:39:23.769 --> 00:39:26.375
cool the OG costumes. that.
853
00:39:26.471 --> 00:39:29.161
That the, I just thought that was a pretty cool touch that they
854
00:39:29.185 --> 00:39:30.789
added in the, in the show.
855
00:39:31.289 --> 00:39:34.057
>> Sarah : Not gonna lie, I hated the OG costumes.
856
00:39:34.153 --> 00:39:34.829
>> Will: Yeah.
857
00:39:36.129 --> 00:39:38.681
>> Sarah : Because I kept, because those, those
858
00:39:38.745 --> 00:39:41.473
costumes are not the costumes that I remember.
859
00:39:41.561 --> 00:39:44.273
So the whole time, I'm m like, what the
860
00:39:44.321 --> 00:39:45.709
heck are they with?
861
00:39:47.329 --> 00:39:50.025
>> Will: I remember some of those from, like, the Chris
862
00:39:50.057 --> 00:39:52.403
Garmont days, whenever, he was,
863
00:39:52.813 --> 00:39:55.405
whenever he was on the, on the, in the comic book. So.
864
00:39:55.549 --> 00:39:57.633
So he's John Byrne. Yeah.
865
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>> Sarah : Rewind a little bit to go back to cameos,
866
00:40:01.445 --> 00:40:04.309
because I just want to point this out, because it was the one that stuck
867
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out the most to me. They even incorporated
868
00:40:07.149 --> 00:40:08.317
cloak and dagger.
869
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>> Will: I saw that. I thought about, as soon as I saw them, I was like,
870
00:40:11.461 --> 00:40:13.393
hey, yeah.
871
00:40:14.093 --> 00:40:16.933
>> Sarah : Tyrone, which man, we
872
00:40:16.973 --> 00:40:19.967
were, we were getting into that series,
873
00:40:20.055 --> 00:40:22.727
and then they, they just canceled it. I
874
00:40:22.735 --> 00:40:25.645
understand ratings were low, but, But,
875
00:40:25.709 --> 00:40:28.593
yeah, like, I saw that and I was like, yeah.
876
00:40:33.729 --> 00:40:36.703
so, yeah, that, that was, I like that.
877
00:40:36.743 --> 00:40:39.287
I like how, yeah, we saw the, the big
878
00:40:39.335 --> 00:40:42.035
guys, guys we all know in Marvel,
879
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.175
but we also saw glimpses, at, some of
880
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.127
the, some of the understories. I mean, there, there was
881
00:40:48.175 --> 00:40:51.135
a lot more daredevil than I thought. But
882
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:53.959
then again, knowing daredevil is coming
883
00:40:54.031 --> 00:40:56.911
back in March, it kind of makes sense why there was so
884
00:40:56.967 --> 00:40:57.375
much.
885
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>> Will: Yeah, so
886
00:40:59.919 --> 00:41:02.735
Spider saw Spider man from the, you know, from
887
00:41:02.759 --> 00:41:05.487
that animated. From the, that also ran
888
00:41:05.535 --> 00:41:08.189
contemporaneous with the, original X Men animated
889
00:41:08.221 --> 00:41:10.575
series. and they were the same universe.
890
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.239
>> Sarah : So of course they are.
891
00:41:13.391 --> 00:41:16.263
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Because they had it all crossover back in the day on it with those,
892
00:41:16.303 --> 00:41:19.199
with that, with two, two cartoons. So, yeah,
893
00:41:19.271 --> 00:41:22.095
it was just, it was. Even Doctor Doom showed up. I was like,
894
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.031
oh, yeah, all right.
895
00:41:24.087 --> 00:41:26.887
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Feige
896
00:41:26.935 --> 00:41:28.703
had a heyday with that.
897
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>> Will: He did.
898
00:41:29.831 --> 00:41:32.591
>> Sarah : It is cool to see him, his name in the
899
00:41:32.607 --> 00:41:35.247
credits because I'm m just like, okay. Even
900
00:41:35.295 --> 00:41:38.263
though I know this show is not working the way it should
901
00:41:38.303 --> 00:41:41.113
be and the way it is for others, I
902
00:41:41.153 --> 00:41:43.969
still like seeing his name. I'm like,
903
00:41:44.001 --> 00:41:46.733
okay, just have, like, he's still there.
904
00:41:48.793 --> 00:41:51.505
>> Will: He can bring it. He can still bring it. I don't
905
00:41:51.529 --> 00:41:52.093
know.
906
00:41:52.513 --> 00:41:55.425
>> Sarah : Comfort, like, I understand these days, the
907
00:41:55.449 --> 00:41:57.933
MCU does not have the track record
908
00:41:58.273 --> 00:42:01.073
in its heyday. Totally agree with that
909
00:42:01.233 --> 00:42:03.929
and understand that. But at the same time, for
910
00:42:03.961 --> 00:42:06.481
whatever reason, I, there's
911
00:42:06.537 --> 00:42:09.257
still something where I'm just like, there's a bit of
912
00:42:09.305 --> 00:42:11.373
comfort that I see.
913
00:42:11.949 --> 00:42:14.895
where, when I see a bad MCU movie, I'm
914
00:42:14.919 --> 00:42:17.087
just, I also probably tell myself
915
00:42:17.135 --> 00:42:20.087
subsciously, Feige had nothing to do with that he took a
916
00:42:20.095 --> 00:42:23.039
vacation time. They did not see the
917
00:42:23.071 --> 00:42:25.911
script that went to like number two guy who
918
00:42:25.927 --> 00:42:27.023
then got fired.
919
00:42:27.143 --> 00:42:30.023
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was there in a bob chapera
920
00:42:30.063 --> 00:42:32.523
where every, you know, poor Kevin was like,
921
00:42:34.343 --> 00:42:37.103
too many things going on at once. So he couldn't, he could.
922
00:42:37.143 --> 00:42:40.119
Yeah. He delegated. He delegated to middle
923
00:42:40.151 --> 00:42:41.803
management. They screwed it up.
924
00:42:43.413 --> 00:42:46.381
Can't do everything. But, yeah, but you're right. It was like, it was a comfort
925
00:42:46.397 --> 00:42:48.349
because even I did.
926
00:42:48.541 --> 00:42:51.309
Speaking of the heyday of MCU,
927
00:42:51.421 --> 00:42:54.397
for example, even though it was very predictable in some
928
00:42:54.445 --> 00:42:56.973
regards, that rogue would be one of the ones who would
929
00:42:57.013 --> 00:43:00.005
go side with Magneto because of all
930
00:43:00.069 --> 00:43:02.495
what had transpired. you know, the
931
00:43:02.527 --> 00:43:05.501
whole people choose the sides of stuff. I did, as
932
00:43:05.525 --> 00:43:08.415
I was watching it, I did kind of smile a little bit thinking back
933
00:43:08.447 --> 00:43:09.511
to civil war.
934
00:43:09.695 --> 00:43:10.479
>> Sarah : Oh, yeah.
935
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:11.299
>> Will: Yeah.
936
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.575
>> Sarah : Because there was even that moment with Captain America
937
00:43:14.727 --> 00:43:17.407
in one of these episodes where I immediately had a
938
00:43:17.423 --> 00:43:19.215
flashback to civil war.
939
00:43:19.327 --> 00:43:19.925
>> Will: Yeah.
940
00:43:19.925 --> 00:43:22.773
>> Sarah : and so again, it's, it's
941
00:43:22.829 --> 00:43:25.705
almost that it's not just that they leaned on,
942
00:43:26.631 --> 00:43:29.485
the original series nostalgia, but
943
00:43:29.525 --> 00:43:32.405
just the MCU as a whole, which has built
944
00:43:32.445 --> 00:43:35.079
up its own nostalgia over the
945
00:43:35.127 --> 00:43:37.295
decades that it's been building this
946
00:43:37.335 --> 00:43:38.135
universe.
947
00:43:38.255 --> 00:43:38.759
>> Will: Yeah.
948
00:43:38.847 --> 00:43:41.757
>> Sarah : And, and the one thing I want to bring up, that
949
00:43:41.781 --> 00:43:44.733
I don't even think I put in my notes. But, man,
950
00:43:44.789 --> 00:43:47.701
if you don't think I'm going to bring this up, then nobody, you didn't
951
00:43:47.733 --> 00:43:50.581
listen last week. But who was right or who was
952
00:43:50.613 --> 00:43:53.613
wrong? I told you they were not going to address
953
00:43:53.669 --> 00:43:55.585
the fact that rogue killed someone.
954
00:43:56.365 --> 00:43:58.299
>> Will: Yeah, you're right. You're right.
955
00:43:58.437 --> 00:44:01.199
>> Sarah : Yeah. Will was telling me, no, no, no.
956
00:44:01.287 --> 00:44:04.195
There's going to be consequences, repercussions
957
00:44:04.575 --> 00:44:07.543
based on. And I'm like, no, no, they're not going
958
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.255
to address it. And I know they
959
00:44:10.295 --> 00:44:13.071
could, but as of right now, they
960
00:44:13.103 --> 00:44:15.719
have not, which I'm not surprised.
961
00:44:15.887 --> 00:44:16.447
>> Will: Yeah.
962
00:44:16.551 --> 00:44:17.235
>> Sarah : Yeah.
963
00:44:18.415 --> 00:44:21.383
>> Will: I was wrong. I was wrong. I thought, I thought we would get resolution to it
964
00:44:21.399 --> 00:44:24.387
sooner. But, you're right. It'll, it'll most likely be season two
965
00:44:24.411 --> 00:44:25.135
or three.
966
00:44:25.905 --> 00:44:28.729
>> Sarah : Yeah. If it's season three. I
967
00:44:28.777 --> 00:44:30.165
still think I'm right.
968
00:44:30.625 --> 00:44:32.449
>> Will: Yeah, you're right. I mean, yeah.
969
00:44:32.617 --> 00:44:35.105
>> Sarah : The statue of limitations for
970
00:44:35.145 --> 00:44:37.525
addressing something like that.
971
00:44:39.225 --> 00:44:42.045
>> Will: Yeah. We're still waiting for, we're still waiting for WandaVision. So,
972
00:44:43.105 --> 00:44:43.885
yeah.
973
00:44:45.345 --> 00:44:46.325
>> Sarah : It's just
974
00:44:48.185 --> 00:44:51.065
when things happen and nobody goes
975
00:44:51.105 --> 00:44:54.005
back to it, man, it sticks out like a sore
976
00:44:54.165 --> 00:44:54.865
thor.
977
00:44:55.325 --> 00:44:56.625
My goodness.
978
00:44:58.895 --> 00:45:01.761
I, you know, the,
979
00:45:02.755 --> 00:45:04.055
episode ten,
980
00:45:05.795 --> 00:45:08.769
I fell asleep a little bit, because I'm just, I'm just
981
00:45:08.817 --> 00:45:11.731
not an action person. And, it's
982
00:45:11.763 --> 00:45:14.135
very hard for me to
983
00:45:14.475 --> 00:45:17.131
at this point, really be
984
00:45:17.163 --> 00:45:19.649
engaged in a third
985
00:45:19.777 --> 00:45:22.761
party, end of the world, blah,
986
00:45:22.793 --> 00:45:25.405
blah, blah. But I have to be honest,
987
00:45:26.705 --> 00:45:29.547
while watching it, just because there
988
00:45:29.571 --> 00:45:32.419
was an asteroid for some reason,
989
00:45:32.467 --> 00:45:35.267
and I think somebody talked about the dinosaurs at one
990
00:45:35.291 --> 00:45:38.251
time, my mind went straight to Batman and
991
00:45:38.283 --> 00:45:38.975
Robin
992
00:45:42.475 --> 00:45:45.475
because there's a line where Arnold's fortunate
993
00:45:45.515 --> 00:45:48.379
or says something about the ice age, like,
994
00:45:48.467 --> 00:45:51.345
and all of the freaking puns and that. And I'm just
995
00:45:51.385 --> 00:45:53.445
like, no, no,
996
00:45:56.625 --> 00:45:59.489
because there was, there was a point in this episode where there were
997
00:45:59.537 --> 00:46:02.225
so many different puns that I'm like, no, these
998
00:46:02.265 --> 00:46:04.817
are, these are not. No,
999
00:46:05.001 --> 00:46:06.245
don't do it.
1000
00:46:09.825 --> 00:46:12.783
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, I agree. it
1001
00:46:12.799 --> 00:46:15.567
was the episode ten. Well, I
1002
00:46:15.671 --> 00:46:18.087
really, really did enjoy, I didn't fall asleep on it or
1003
00:46:18.111 --> 00:46:20.935
anything. And there was a lot of
1004
00:46:20.975 --> 00:46:23.741
action. And of course, we already talked about the, all the,
1005
00:46:23.893 --> 00:46:26.879
all the cameos that we saw. But, at
1006
00:46:26.887 --> 00:46:29.887
the end, I like the way that it started because as
1007
00:46:29.911 --> 00:46:32.335
we were discussing earlier about Charles
1008
00:46:32.495 --> 00:46:35.487
and, Magneto's friendship. I did.
1009
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.211
I did like that. I did like the,
1010
00:46:41.111 --> 00:46:42.891
how it challenged
1011
00:46:44.431 --> 00:46:46.531
our view of Charles because,
1012
00:46:47.321 --> 00:46:50.297
you know, at the end of the day, he was like,
1013
00:46:50.329 --> 00:46:52.937
look, I don't want to have to force myself
1014
00:46:53.049 --> 00:46:55.873
on you, but in order to
1015
00:46:55.897 --> 00:46:58.625
save the day, he had to compromise his ethics and
1016
00:46:58.673 --> 00:47:01.649
his moral compass to do the very thing he
1017
00:47:01.665 --> 00:47:04.321
said he wasn't going to do. And
1018
00:47:04.481 --> 00:47:06.889
I did like them going into
1019
00:47:06.945 --> 00:47:09.763
that. you know, especially knowing
1020
00:47:09.787 --> 00:47:12.551
their friendship, knowing how they had it fallen out
1021
00:47:16.661 --> 00:47:19.541
and the sheer power
1022
00:47:19.621 --> 00:47:22.157
of these two omega level mutants,
1023
00:47:22.229 --> 00:47:24.959
like merging like this, which I think
1024
00:47:25.055 --> 00:47:27.491
comic readers will know that,
1025
00:47:28.087 --> 00:47:31.081
onslaught was a character in the comic
1026
00:47:31.121 --> 00:47:33.697
books that whenever Charles and Magneto
1027
00:47:33.729 --> 00:47:36.141
combined, that was a villain
1028
00:47:37.541 --> 00:47:40.485
part of the X Men's comic book series. So, you
1029
00:47:40.493 --> 00:47:43.223
know, so all of that together, that was
1030
00:47:43.407 --> 00:47:46.271
really the underlying ethical issues that were sort of at play.
1031
00:47:46.311 --> 00:47:48.785
There were really something that I was just like, All right.
1032
00:47:49.325 --> 00:47:49.761
>> Sarah : Yeah.
1033
00:47:50.139 --> 00:47:52.883
>> Will: yeah, that was, you know, and, you know, because
1034
00:47:52.979 --> 00:47:55.979
everybody, this line is this Charles. And you know, he's always trying to
1035
00:47:55.987 --> 00:47:58.915
do the right thing, but even he, it reaches a point where
1036
00:47:58.955 --> 00:48:01.923
he has to like, bend the rules, recognizes that
1037
00:48:01.939 --> 00:48:03.015
he has to do it.
1038
00:48:03.365 --> 00:48:04.105
>> Sarah : Right.
1039
00:48:05.885 --> 00:48:08.453
Yeah. so,
1040
00:48:08.549 --> 00:48:11.365
yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, that was
1041
00:48:11.405 --> 00:48:14.277
good. I, again, it's hard for
1042
00:48:14.301 --> 00:48:17.269
me for some reason. I didn't. It's,
1043
00:48:17.357 --> 00:48:20.235
I don't know, I'm just, I'm just, even though
1044
00:48:20.315 --> 00:48:23.123
it's an interesting dynamic
1045
00:48:23.179 --> 00:48:25.891
and everything. I'm just always like, Charles a good
1046
00:48:25.923 --> 00:48:26.495
guy.
1047
00:48:26.875 --> 00:48:27.655
>> Will: Yeah.
1048
00:48:28.475 --> 00:48:31.123
>> Sarah : Like, at the end of the day, yeah, he can do,
1049
00:48:31.219 --> 00:48:34.107
like, a bad thing, but he also did it
1050
00:48:34.131 --> 00:48:36.547
to quote unquote semi villain.
1051
00:48:36.691 --> 00:48:39.403
So. So, yeah, yeah, he's right.
1052
00:48:39.539 --> 00:48:42.491
This is so weird. It's so weird. But what I
1053
00:48:42.523 --> 00:48:45.259
liked was there was that whole moment
1054
00:48:45.387 --> 00:48:48.051
where Charles was trying to convince him about
1055
00:48:48.123 --> 00:48:51.091
people and stuff. And, like, they
1056
00:48:51.203 --> 00:48:53.731
flashed that image of rogue in a
1057
00:48:53.763 --> 00:48:54.355
boat.
1058
00:48:54.515 --> 00:48:55.547
>> Will: Oh, yeah. yeah.
1059
00:48:55.641 --> 00:48:58.455
>> Sarah : Which did make me think of three body, one problem
1060
00:48:58.535 --> 00:49:01.343
because of that whole. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
1061
00:49:01.439 --> 00:49:01.887
>> Will: I do.
1062
00:49:01.951 --> 00:49:04.849
>> Sarah : And, And. But, like, in an instant when he's
1063
00:49:04.881 --> 00:49:07.705
like, oh, like, ro can be that person. And then I
1064
00:49:07.729 --> 00:49:10.705
love how, like, within the span of a second, he just was like,
1065
00:49:10.769 --> 00:49:12.133
but she left me.
1066
00:49:14.593 --> 00:49:17.169
No, you're not
1067
00:49:17.241 --> 00:49:20.017
wrong. It's
1068
00:49:20.065 --> 00:49:23.033
very funny to me the way you just like,
1069
00:49:23.073 --> 00:49:26.035
oh, rogue, but she left me. And I'm like,
1070
00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:28.851
yeah, she left you in genocide and then you
1071
00:49:28.907 --> 00:49:31.699
self sacrificed yourself for her.
1072
00:49:31.771 --> 00:49:34.443
So I just. Where are you at with
1073
00:49:34.483 --> 00:49:37.291
this? Where
1074
00:49:37.347 --> 00:49:39.463
are you at with this? And,
1075
00:49:39.439 --> 00:49:42.117
So let's. Let's talk about the after
1076
00:49:42.165 --> 00:49:42.853
credit scene.
1077
00:49:42.933 --> 00:49:43.213
>> Will: Yeah.
1078
00:49:43.253 --> 00:49:46.197
>> Sarah : Because I was smart and I checked
1079
00:49:46.285 --> 00:49:49.139
and I was like, oh, I see, I see. They're doing.
1080
00:49:49.261 --> 00:49:52.245
They're doing that. and there isn't a
1081
00:49:52.309 --> 00:49:55.293
mid or an after credit scene, whatever you would call
1082
00:49:55.333 --> 00:49:57.733
it. which basically
1083
00:49:58.753 --> 00:50:01.697
we get a fast forward to six months since quote unquote
1084
00:50:01.745 --> 00:50:04.137
e day happened and rumors
1085
00:50:04.225 --> 00:50:06.777
were still swirling about the fate of the X
1086
00:50:06.825 --> 00:50:09.153
Men. Bishop, is back
1087
00:50:09.533 --> 00:50:12.261
and he greets forge, who was on
1088
00:50:12.317 --> 00:50:15.205
earth. And so he's still one of the survivors
1089
00:50:15.269 --> 00:50:18.051
and trying to find his goddess. A
1090
00:50:18.067 --> 00:50:20.657
case storm. And, And.
1091
00:50:20.785 --> 00:50:23.473
And Bishop and. And him are
1092
00:50:23.513 --> 00:50:26.113
gonna. Are gonna go out and try to find the X Men
1093
00:50:26.153 --> 00:50:28.809
because in the future, they are
1094
00:50:28.841 --> 00:50:31.673
BFF's forever. So apparently
1095
00:50:31.753 --> 00:50:34.089
or something, they're at least more than
1096
00:50:34.121 --> 00:50:34.817
acquaintances.
1097
00:50:34.945 --> 00:50:37.769
>> Will: They know they are. Yeah, they know each other. And
1098
00:50:37.801 --> 00:50:40.645
also, cable, is still there in
1099
00:50:40.669 --> 00:50:43.285
present day. So, you know, so I know cable and
1100
00:50:43.309 --> 00:50:45.743
forge, you know, form x force. So.
1101
00:50:45.853 --> 00:50:48.623
>> Sarah : Yes. And then we get.
1102
00:50:49.883 --> 00:50:52.635
We get to see where the X Men are and
1103
00:50:52.659 --> 00:50:55.303
there. And everyone's a bit spread out
1104
00:50:55.923 --> 00:50:58.403
in different places, but there is one
1105
00:50:58.483 --> 00:51:01.383
common figure in these places.
1106
00:51:02.513 --> 00:51:05.417
and I'm not going to say that first name, so I'm just going to go straight
1107
00:51:05.465 --> 00:51:07.653
to and Sabano
1108
00:51:09.073 --> 00:51:11.979
and Sabineur. and I'm not ashamed to
1109
00:51:12.011 --> 00:51:14.639
admit I was like, that name sounds awfully
1110
00:51:14.671 --> 00:51:17.567
familiar. Cut to 5 seconds later when it's clearly
1111
00:51:17.615 --> 00:51:20.615
apocalypse and genocide ever dead. I'm
1112
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.471
like, yep. I knew it sounded familiar. I just couldn't place it.
1113
00:51:23.567 --> 00:51:26.423
>> Will: Yep, yep, yep.
1114
00:51:26.543 --> 00:51:28.127
Got past, present and future.
1115
00:51:28.255 --> 00:51:30.919
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yep. And then we have mother
1116
00:51:31.031 --> 00:51:32.163
Azogne.
1117
00:51:33.743 --> 00:51:34.695
>> Will: Asconny.
1118
00:51:34.839 --> 00:51:35.831
>> Sarah : Asconi.
1119
00:51:35.967 --> 00:51:36.519
>> Will: Yeah.
1120
00:51:36.631 --> 00:51:38.323
>> Sarah : And now. Now, who is she?
1121
00:51:39.203 --> 00:51:41.883
>> Will: So, spoiler alert for
1122
00:51:41.923 --> 00:51:44.575
folks, if you don't want to
1123
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.199
know, but
1124
00:51:47.311 --> 00:51:48.643
she is a summers.
1125
00:51:51.823 --> 00:51:53.633
She's, Scott Summers daughter.
1126
00:51:55.773 --> 00:51:56.581
>> Sarah : Interesting.
1127
00:51:56.677 --> 00:51:57.621
>> Will: Cables, brother.
1128
00:51:57.757 --> 00:51:57.759
>> Sarah : Cables.
1129
00:51:57.759 --> 00:51:59.993
>> Will: Ah, yeah. Cables. Her brother. Yeah.
1130
00:52:03.473 --> 00:52:06.009
So, yeah, that's who she is.
1131
00:52:06.201 --> 00:52:09.017
>> Sarah : That's who she is. Okay,
1132
00:52:09.145 --> 00:52:12.133
interesting. So. So they're in the future
1133
00:52:12.593 --> 00:52:15.377
because that is that who Scott and Gene
1134
00:52:15.425 --> 00:52:18.265
encounter? Yeah, because. And then.
1135
00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:21.249
And then it's who encounters and
1136
00:52:21.281 --> 00:52:23.013
salmon here in the past.
1137
00:52:23.289 --> 00:52:25.583
>> Will: that is storm.
1138
00:52:28.443 --> 00:52:29.239
Yeah.
1139
00:52:29.411 --> 00:52:30.763
>> Sarah : Where's Rogue?
1140
00:52:31.143 --> 00:52:32.703
>> Will: Rogue is still in present day.
1141
00:52:32.863 --> 00:52:34.643
>> Sarah : Rogue is still in present day.
1142
00:52:35.823 --> 00:52:38.487
Okay. Okay. Okay.
1143
00:52:38.535 --> 00:52:41.421
So, so we have. We have a team
1144
00:52:41.477 --> 00:52:42.765
in the past. Oh, yeah.
1145
00:52:42.789 --> 00:52:44.473
>> Will: Nightcrawlers also in the past.
1146
00:52:44.933 --> 00:52:47.805
>> Sarah : Nightclub callers in the past. And then we have
1147
00:52:47.869 --> 00:52:49.473
team summers in the future.
1148
00:52:49.813 --> 00:52:50.533
>> Will: Right.
1149
00:52:50.693 --> 00:52:53.173
>> Sarah : We have. Okay, we have. We have
1150
00:52:53.293 --> 00:52:56.085
Xavier team in the past. Summers in the
1151
00:52:56.109 --> 00:52:58.861
future. Is it just gene and cyclops in the
1152
00:52:58.877 --> 00:52:59.509
future?
1153
00:53:00.331 --> 00:53:03.211
>> Will: now, trying to remember if rogue
1154
00:53:03.243 --> 00:53:06.123
was a part of them or not. With them or not. I
1155
00:53:06.139 --> 00:53:08.055
think Rogue was still in present day
1156
00:53:09.035 --> 00:53:11.149
with, with Roberto. Did they
1157
00:53:11.649 --> 00:53:14.017
or did she go with them too? I can't remember.
1158
00:53:14.153 --> 00:53:16.349
>> Sarah : See for, ah, summary. Well,
1159
00:53:16.969 --> 00:53:18.989
I don't know, because at one point,
1160
00:53:20.469 --> 00:53:23.033
for, some reason, I feel like she's in.
1161
00:53:23.161 --> 00:53:25.709
In one of, like she's not in present day.
1162
00:53:26.729 --> 00:53:29.601
But. But viewers or listeners let
1163
00:53:29.625 --> 00:53:32.583
us know and, we're gonna go back and.
1164
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:33.327
And probably.
1165
00:53:33.431 --> 00:53:35.865
>> Will: Oh, actually, rogue actually, look,
1166
00:53:35.929 --> 00:53:38.801
Rogue. So Magneto, Rogue, Nightcrawler,
1167
00:53:38.857 --> 00:53:41.373
Beast and Xavier are all sit back in time.
1168
00:53:41.673 --> 00:53:44.545
>> Sarah : Okay. That makes more sense because I don't know why
1169
00:53:44.569 --> 00:53:47.209
the writers would separate Magneto and Rogue at this
1170
00:53:47.241 --> 00:53:49.935
point. Right. And so it's really
1171
00:53:49.999 --> 00:53:52.007
just Scott and Gene in the future.
1172
00:53:52.175 --> 00:53:55.007
>> Will: Scott Jean. Yeah. Because cable still.
1173
00:53:55.135 --> 00:53:57.323
Cable still at present day.
1174
00:53:57.743 --> 00:53:59.683
>> Sarah : Yeah. Where's Jubilee?
1175
00:54:03.727 --> 00:54:05.199
>> Will: I don't know. I can't recall.
1176
00:54:05.263 --> 00:54:07.495
>> Sarah : Well. Well. Don't know. Don't care.
1177
00:54:07.551 --> 00:54:08.307
Okay.
1178
00:54:12.047 --> 00:54:14.903
Okay. Well, the team is
1179
00:54:14.935 --> 00:54:15.743
divided.
1180
00:54:15.935 --> 00:54:16.735
>> Will: Yeah.
1181
00:54:16.911 --> 00:54:19.847
>> Sarah : And it makes sense, considering if you look back at,
1182
00:54:19.887 --> 00:54:22.591
like, at this, the overall a
1183
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.463
storyline and b storyline, to
1184
00:54:25.495 --> 00:54:28.495
have these. These two groups to
1185
00:54:28.511 --> 00:54:31.399
be where they are, it makes sense. And
1186
00:54:31.423 --> 00:54:34.151
when we got our. Got our, like,
1187
00:54:34.279 --> 00:54:37.269
cable. Cable, bishop story
1188
00:54:37.453 --> 00:54:40.403
right in the middle. So. So it's a
1189
00:54:40.435 --> 00:54:42.851
very good setup for a season two.
1190
00:54:42.979 --> 00:54:44.163
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
1191
00:54:44.355 --> 00:54:47.259
>> Sarah : And. And also taking
1192
00:54:47.323 --> 00:54:49.507
the conflicts from the season or the
1193
00:54:49.547 --> 00:54:51.727
unresolved items,
1194
00:54:52.503 --> 00:54:55.137
and allowing them to be brought forward
1195
00:54:55.957 --> 00:54:58.445
while at the same time kind of starting the next
1196
00:54:58.501 --> 00:55:01.017
chapter with everything and everyone.
1197
00:55:01.743 --> 00:55:04.527
but I will say, I don't know if I'm ready for
1198
00:55:04.567 --> 00:55:07.429
apocalypse. I
1199
00:55:07.453 --> 00:55:10.061
just, I mean, that was,
1200
00:55:10.229 --> 00:55:13.109
I know it's probably like, what was
1201
00:55:13.133 --> 00:55:16.061
it, 2015? So it's been almost a decade
1202
00:55:16.189 --> 00:55:18.573
since the, the live action
1203
00:55:18.725 --> 00:55:21.725
apocalypse movie came out. Correct me if I'm wrong,
1204
00:55:21.781 --> 00:55:23.005
2016 maybe.
1205
00:55:23.061 --> 00:55:24.337
>> Will: That's about right. Yeah.
1206
00:55:25.237 --> 00:55:28.053
>> Sarah : So it's just, it just feels soon, very
1207
00:55:28.125 --> 00:55:30.737
soon, because that did not go well.
1208
00:55:32.077 --> 00:55:34.269
That was not in the upper
1209
00:55:34.413 --> 00:55:35.541
echelon.
1210
00:55:35.709 --> 00:55:38.645
>> Will: Yeah. But I think by that, one I had already, I had already built
1211
00:55:38.691 --> 00:55:39.865
all the series. So.
1212
00:55:40.001 --> 00:55:42.817
>> Sarah : Yeah, it was, I mean, and, and they even
1213
00:55:42.857 --> 00:55:44.681
had Oscar Isaac do it.
1214
00:55:44.769 --> 00:55:47.673
>> Will: Like, oh, yeah, that's right, that's
1215
00:55:47.705 --> 00:55:47.921
right.
1216
00:55:47.969 --> 00:55:50.693
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Like, it's
1217
00:55:50.959 --> 00:55:53.255
so interesting to me, the movie
1218
00:55:53.303 --> 00:55:54.851
stars who,
1219
00:55:55.591 --> 00:55:58.479
you see them
1220
00:55:58.615 --> 00:56:01.207
in these roles and you're like, man, he can play
1221
00:56:01.279 --> 00:56:04.159
everything. And then you pull out the book and he's like, well,
1222
00:56:04.215 --> 00:56:06.725
he tried. Do you not recall this
1223
00:56:06.773 --> 00:56:09.717
movie? I mean, he was in Apocalypse and then
1224
00:56:09.869 --> 00:56:12.703
he did, the beloved MCU series that
1225
00:56:12.727 --> 00:56:13.931
I'm blanking on.
1226
00:56:16.391 --> 00:56:17.171
Yeah.
1227
00:56:18.031 --> 00:56:20.411
Which is another one that
1228
00:56:20.791 --> 00:56:23.631
I don't know that I guess everybody was
1229
00:56:23.671 --> 00:56:26.591
mixed on but you. And you were really,
1230
00:56:26.751 --> 00:56:28.599
really not feeling that show.
1231
00:56:28.695 --> 00:56:30.279
>> Will: We weren't feeling it at all. We.
1232
00:56:30.335 --> 00:56:30.387
>> Sarah : Yeah.
1233
00:56:30.387 --> 00:56:33.331
>> Will: and I guess, I think, I think moving forward, I think they're going to read
1234
00:56:33.441 --> 00:56:35.383
christen that one under the whole spotlight.
1235
00:56:35.831 --> 00:56:36.511
bama.
1236
00:56:36.671 --> 00:56:39.615
>> Sarah : I'm, I'm sure because I
1237
00:56:39.703 --> 00:56:42.087
don't, I can only imagine Oscar
1238
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.919
Isaac's rate continues to just grow up.
1239
00:56:44.975 --> 00:56:45.571
Like.
1240
00:56:47.671 --> 00:56:50.615
>> Will: There'S not going to be a season two of that one. I may eat my words,
1241
00:56:50.663 --> 00:56:51.743
but, but.
1242
00:56:51.807 --> 00:56:54.231
>> Sarah : Yeah, m with m Nicholas
1243
00:56:54.271 --> 00:56:55.399
Gaussian. So.
1244
00:56:55.455 --> 00:56:56.091
>> Will: Yeah,
1245
00:56:59.031 --> 00:57:01.615
yeah. But you're right about Apocalypse and just, you
1246
00:57:01.623 --> 00:57:04.607
know, whether or not it's too soon, but
1247
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.599
also just sort of setting things up. Especially as,
1248
00:57:07.615 --> 00:57:10.399
you know, we got the mid credit and then of course the,
1249
00:57:10.535 --> 00:57:12.331
I guess in credit there,
1250
00:57:13.531 --> 00:57:16.441
was the, with you know, seeing the gambit card and
1251
00:57:17.301 --> 00:57:18.441
everything there.
1252
00:57:19.341 --> 00:57:21.801
>> Sarah : That's it. That's another thing that
1253
00:57:23.781 --> 00:57:26.005
I don't know how to feel about that.
1254
00:57:26.173 --> 00:57:29.125
Because if they do bring him back next
1255
00:57:29.173 --> 00:57:31.781
season, I guess it'll all
1256
00:57:31.821 --> 00:57:34.333
depend on how, like in season
1257
00:57:34.397 --> 00:57:37.293
two, if they bring him back, how they bring him back
1258
00:57:37.317 --> 00:57:40.275
and everything to see, to
1259
00:57:40.363 --> 00:57:42.751
try to figure out how I feel about that because
1260
00:57:43.851 --> 00:57:46.667
I was already like, I don't know about the stakes of this
1261
00:57:46.699 --> 00:57:49.491
show, but they really kill them. Yeah, but
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now they're kind of teasing that, they're gonna bring them back. And it's like,
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okay, well, if you're gonna bring them back, then, I don't know.
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>> Will: Yeah, if you can bring it back, then, you know, then
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the whole cable can use his
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time travel magic to, like, save Janosha. I mean, and,
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you know, so it's.
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>> Sarah : Just like, no, no, I
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see there's a line at one point,
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though.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : that alludes to what they were alluding to in
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WandaVision. and I forget
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what they called it. Called it in WandaVision, but there's.
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There is a certain event.
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>> Will: Oh, the Nexus events.
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>> Sarah : A Nexus. Yeah, I think it's a Nexus event.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : The way they talked about it just
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reminded me of the way they were talking about Nexus
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events in WandaVision.
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>> Will: Yeah, true,
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true. Yeah. And I know they also have that
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Loki as well.
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>> Sarah : Right, right. Yeah. So. So
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I think. I think that,
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again, could go back a few minutes, like,
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Feige is here. And I don't though,
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just the way they talked about it.
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There were some words used where I'm just like,
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I. Hm. Feel like I know what kind of thing you're
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referring to, which makes me accept
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this as.
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Because. And I don't
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think. I don't think it would be a smart move to play that
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card because that doesn't make
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cable as tragic of a character as he could
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be, given his abilities.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Like, if you can travel back in
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time, well, you could fix so much.
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but. But if, like, it
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00:59:31.681 --> 00:59:34.625
suddenly becomes more of a curse, like. But I
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can't fix this one
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00:59:37.369 --> 00:59:40.163
thing. despite my ability,
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like, I could save all these others, but the one person I really
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want to save, I can.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : That reminds me of what if with Doctor
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Strange, like, him trying to. To
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use his powers to change,
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his own fate, and it's just.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, and I guess that makes sense too,
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because the watcher was overseeing things when that whole thing went
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down in Judosha, so.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's another
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01:00:10.395 --> 01:00:13.349
reason why it's definitely is more likely to
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be a nexus event.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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01:00:17.081 --> 01:00:19.821
all right, well, on that note,
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01:00:20.461 --> 01:00:23.133
will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can find you?
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>> Will: Yes, you can find me on X, formally known as Twitter,
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01:00:26.253 --> 01:00:27.373
at Will and Polk
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Willmmpolk.
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>> Sarah : And you can find me there too, at sjbelmont m
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